Did I Solve the Impulse Momentum Problem Correctly?

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The discussion revolves around an impulse-momentum problem involving a particle's mass and initial velocity, as well as a potential energy problem related to force and energy conservation. Participants are exploring the application of impulse and potential energy concepts in their solutions.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the final velocity of a particle after an impulse using the area under a Force vs. Time graph and the impulse-momentum theorem. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the direction of impulse and the use of different equations. Additionally, there is a discussion about deriving force from potential energy and the correct application of energy conservation principles.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's approach, suggesting that the impulse was correctly calculated and that alternative methods could yield the same result. There is also clarification on the relationship between potential energy and force, indicating a productive exchange of ideas regarding the concepts involved.

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Participants note confusion regarding the potential energy function and its implications for force, as well as the correct interpretation of energy conservation in the context of the problems presented. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's uncertainty about the problems and their setup.

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Homework Statement


I took a test today and I am pretty sure I got everything right except for this one problem that was on there which I am unsure of. If I remember correctly, it went like this:

It said there was a particle of mass 2 kg moving with a speed of 5 m/s to the right. Then there was a graph that more or less looked like this one I just made:

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The question asked what the final velocity was after the impulse.

Homework Equations



I believe this is correct and relevant.
[tex]\int F dt = J = ΔP = mv_{f} - mv_{i}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I wagered that since the impulse was equal to the area under the curve on a Force v. Time graph, that the problem could be done in this way:

[tex]J = \frac{1}{2}(base)(height)[/tex]
[tex]J = \frac{1}{2}(0.10)(10)[/tex]
[tex]J = 0.5[/tex]

[tex]J = mv_{f} - mv_{i}[/tex]
[tex]0.5 = (2)v_{f} - (2)(5)[/tex]
[tex]10.5 = (2)v_{f}[/tex]
[tex]5.25 = v_{f}[/tex]

So I said the velocity afterwards was 5.25 m/s (and part b asked the direction, which I claimed was to the right).

It's unlike any practice/hw/quiz problems we have had before and there was some equation she wrote on the board:
[tex]F_{avg}Δt = mv_{f} - mv_{i}[/tex]

Which I believe is basically what I did, I just didn't use that equation.

Did I mess up?
 
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Assuming that the impulse was also to the right, you did fine.

FYI: You could have used your instructor's formula; In this case the average force is 10/2 = 5 N. Same answer, of course. (Since it's really the same thing.)
 
Whew, thank you.

Another question that I am a little sketchy about is one where they showed some function U(x) which represented potential energy with respect to distance.The mass of the thing was m kg The question(s) were:

a.)What is force:
I simply took the derivative of U, and my final answer was U'(x). Sorry I can't remember the function, but it was something that had the general shape of y = 1/x.

b.)If the object was released from it's origin, what is it's speed at x = 2?

I claimed that mgU(0) was the total energy on the system, and so, after the thing fell or whatever, the final velocity could be found via:

[tex]mgU(0) = mgU(2) + \frac{1}{2}mv^{2}[/tex]
Solving for v obviously.

?
 
QuarkCharmer said:
a.)What is force:
I simply took the derivative of U, and my final answer was U'(x). Sorry I can't remember the function, but it was something that had the general shape of y = 1/x.
Almost. Given a potential energy function, the associated force is given by -dU/dx. The minus sign is important.

b.)If the object was released from it's origin, what is it's speed at x = 2?

I claimed that mgU(0) was the total energy on the system, and so, after the thing fell or whatever, the final velocity could be found via:

[tex]mgU(0) = mgU(2) + \frac{1}{2}mv^{2}[/tex]
Solving for v obviously.
U(x) is the potential energy, not mgU(x). (You're confusing this with a gravitational PE problem, perhaps?)

You want:
[tex]U(0) = U(2) + \frac{1}{2}mv^{2}[/tex]
 
Oh ok, I got confused trying to replicate the problem from memory into latex.

Yes I used [itex]F = -\frac{dU}{dx}[/itex]
and I did use U(x) for potential, not mgU(x).
 
QuarkCharmer said:
Oh ok, I got confused trying to replicate the problem from memory into latex.

Yes I used [itex]F = -\frac{dU}{dx}[/itex]
and I did use U(x) for potential, not mgU(x).
Good! :cool:
 

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