Dielectric constant for a plastic kitchen bag?

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The discussion centers on using Market Basket/DeMoulas' plastic kitchen bags as a dielectric material for homemade capacitors. The bags have a thickness of 19 micrometers, which is crucial for accuracy in experimental results. The dielectric constant of polyethylene is suggested as an approximation for the bags, although concerns about uniformity in thickness and accuracy are raised. The participant weighs the benefits of using the plastic bags against the potential consistency of paper as an alternative dielectric material.

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  • Understanding of dielectric materials and their properties
  • Familiarity with capacitor construction techniques
  • Knowledge of polyethylene and its dielectric constant
  • Basic measurement techniques for material thickness
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  • Research the dielectric constant of polyethylene and its application in capacitors
  • Explore methods for measuring material thickness accurately
  • Investigate alternative dielectric materials, such as paper, and their properties
  • Learn about the manufacturing processes of plastic bags and their impact on material properties
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Students and hobbyists in electronics, particularly those interested in capacitor design and material science, will benefit from this discussion.

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Hello!

I'm making some home-made capacitors for an up-coming lab, and I was thinking of using Market Basket/DeMoulas' plastic kitchen bags as a dielectric. I'm really hoping to use it because the packaging info includes the thickness of the bag (19 micrometers), which should increase the accuracy of my results.

However, I'm at a loss to how to find its dielectric constant. The packaging info says:

"These bags are made in layers of specially formulated plastic with added strength and stretch for puncture and tear resistance."

I've seen websites that approximate garbage bags' dielectric constants using polyethylene. Would that be appropriate in this case?

Is it worth having an approximated dielectric constant in return for a more accurate depth measurement? Or am I better off using something like paper, and measuring the thickness myself? (I don't have any good equipment for that. I'll have to stack the papers, measure that and divide.)
 
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This is just conjecture on my part, but I imagine there is just as much margin of error in the nominal thickness of those bags as there would be in your measurement. Maybe even more. I saw plastic bags being manufactured once. They basically squirted a stream of molten plastic upward & used a vertical column of forced air to hold it in a cylindrical shape & keep it moving upward until it dried near the ceiling. I don't think you can count on the thickness being perfectly uniform. Paper, I think, is rolled out under pressure, so I would expect its thickness to be more consistent.
 
All right. Thanks for the info!
 

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