Diff. Eq. Show that the following equation is not exact.

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation expressed as (Y^2 - x)dx + (4xy)dy=0, with the goal of demonstrating that it is not exact and finding an integrating factor to make it exact. The subject area is differential equations, specifically focusing on exact equations and integrating factors.

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  • Participants discuss the partial derivatives of the functions M and N to establish that the equation is not exact. There are inquiries about how to find the integrating factor that would make the equation exact. Some participants reference external resources for guidance.

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Some participants have indicated they found an integrating factor that makes the equation exact, while others express confusion about the conditions under which different cases for integrating factors should be applied. There is an ongoing exploration of the topic, with no clear consensus on all aspects of the discussion.

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Participants note that the textbook does not provide guidance on finding integrating factors for exact equations, which adds to the complexity of the problem. There is also mention of the conditions under which the integrating factor cases apply, indicating a need for further clarification.

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Homework Statement



Show that the following equation is not exact.
Then find and simplify the integrating factor that makes the equation exact.(You do not have to solve the equation)

(Y^2 - x)dx + (4xy)dy=0

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The Attempt at a Solution



M(x,y) =(Y^2 - x)dx N(x,y)=(4xy)dy

Partial Derivative of m with respect to y is 2y

Partial Derivative of N with respect to x is xy

^shows they are not exact.
how exactly do i find this integrating factor that makes them exact?
 
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Jtechguy21 said:

Homework Statement



Show that the following equation is not exact.
Then find and simplify the integrating factor that makes the equation exact.(You do not have to solve the equation)

(Y^2 - x)dx + (4xy)dy=0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



M(x,y) =(Y^2 - x)dx N(x,y)=(4xy)dy

Partial Derivative of m with respect to y is 2y

Partial Derivative of N with respect to x is xy

^shows they are not exact.
how exactly do i find this integrating factor that makes them exact?

If your text doesn't tell you how, look here:

http://www.cliffsnotes.com/math/differential-equations/first-order-equations/integrating-factors
 
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LCKurtz said:
If your text doesn't tell you how, look here:

http://www.cliffsnotes.com/math/differential-equations/first-order-equations/integrating-factors

yes! thank you so much. I figured it out with the link you gave me.
My integrating factor was x^-(1/2) yay :)
they are exact now.

I found it really strange my book does not show me how to find the IF for exact equations, and the homework examples already have the IF given. hmmm. anyways.

can you answer another question for me. In the link I used case 1. but i am unsure when i need to use case2. the conditions are nearly identical.

Consider the differential equation M dx + N dy = 0. If this equation is not exact, then M y will not equal N x ; that is, M y – N x ≠ 0. However, if

case1 is a function of x only
(My-Nx)/(N)

Case2 is a function of y only
(My-Nx)/(-M)
 
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Jtechguy21 said:
yes! thank you so much. I figured it out with the link you gave me.
My integrating factor was x^-(1/2) yay :)
they are exact now.

I found it really strange my book does not show me how to find the IF for exact equations, and the homework examples already have the IF given. hmmm. anyways.

If the equation is exact so ##M_y=N_x##, you don't need an integrating factor. It's ready to go as it is.

can you answer another question for me. In the link I used case 1. but i am unsure when i need to use case2. the conditions are nearly identical.

Consider the differential equation M dx + N dy = 0. If this equation is not exact, then M y will not equal N x ; that is, M y – N x ≠ 0. However, if

case1 is a function of x only
(My-Nx)/(N)

Case2 is a function of y only
(My-Nx)/(-M)

You don't have a choice of which, if any, case to use. If you are lucky and get either the function of x or function of y in that test, you can find an integrating factor which will make the equation exact. But an equation might not be exact and neither of the above cases work either. Then you have to resort to other methods to solve it, presuming it can be solved analytically at all. These techniques don't always work.
 
LCKurtz said:
If the equation is exact so ##M_y=N_x##, you don't need an integrating factor. It's ready to go as it is.



You don't have a choice of which, if any, case to use. If you are lucky and get either the function of x or function of y in that test, you can find an integrating factor which will make the equation exact. But an equation might not be exact and neither of the above cases work either. Then you have to resort to other methods to solve it, presuming it can be solved analytically at all. These techniques don't always work.


thank you for explaining this to me :) It all makes sense to me now!
 

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