Difference between nuetrals and neutrons

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The discussion centers around the differences between neutrals and neutrons, specifically focusing on the interactions between protons, electrons, and neutrons. It explores the formation of hydrogen atoms and the conditions under which protons and electrons may combine to form neutrons, as well as the implications of such processes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks about the difference between a particle formed by the combination of a proton and a neutron and a neutron itself.
  • Another participant states that a proton combined with a neutron forms an H2 nucleus.
  • A correction is made regarding the initial question, clarifying that the intended discussion is about the combination of a proton and an electron.
  • It is proposed that a proton and an electron combine to form a hydrogen atom, and with sufficient energy, they could theoretically combine into a neutron, involving neutrinos for conservation reasons.
  • Another participant reiterates that with enough energy, an electron and a proton can combine to form a neutron, which is described as identical to other neutrons.
  • A detailed explanation is provided about the quark composition of protons and neutrons, indicating that the electron interacts with an Up quark in the proton to convert it into a Down quark, resulting in the formation of a neutron.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the processes involved in the combination of particles, particularly regarding the formation of neutrons from protons and electrons. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the implications of these interactions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about energy requirements for particle interactions and the role of neutrinos, which are not fully resolved. The definitions of terms like "neutrals" and "neutrons" may also depend on context.

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What is the difference between the particle formed by the combining of a proton and a neutron and a neutron?
 
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proton + neutron is H2 nucleus.
 
Wait a second meant proton and electron combining
 
Proton + electron = hydrogen atom. If you supply energy you might be able to force them to combine into a neutron (neutrinos have to get involved for conservation reasons).

The usual reaction goes the other way. A free neutron decays into a proton + electron + neutrino.
 
As mathman said, if you have enough energy you can force an electron and a proton to combine and form a Neutron. This Neutron is exactly the same as every other Neutron.

What actually happens is the electron combines with one of the Up quarks in the proton (Protons are made up of 3 quarks, Up, Up, and Down) and turns it into a down quark. (Neutrons are made up of 3 quarks also, Up, Down, Down) This turns the proton into a neutron.
 

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