High School Difference Between Redshifts of Massive Galaxies & Accelerating Galaxies

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The discussion focuses on distinguishing between gravitational redshift from supermassive black holes and cosmological redshift in galaxies. Gravitational redshift varies across a galaxy, particularly influenced by the black hole at its core, while cosmological redshift remains uniform throughout. Observers can only infer redshift from measured wavelengths and other factors, such as the hydrogen spectrum. The intrinsic gravity of a galaxy, combined with its distance from Earth, plays a crucial role in interpreting redshift data.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of gravitational redshift and its implications in astrophysics
  • Familiarity with cosmological redshift and the expanding universe theory
  • Knowledge of spectral analysis, particularly the hydrogen spectrum
  • Basic concepts of galaxy formation and supermassive black holes
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  • Research the differences between gravitational redshift and cosmological redshift
  • Study the properties of supermassive black holes and their effects on surrounding galaxies
  • Learn about spectral analysis techniques used in astrophysics
  • Explore the implications of the expanding universe on galaxy observations
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Astronomers, astrophysicists, and students studying cosmology and galaxy dynamics will benefit from this discussion.

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How can someone tell the difference between a super massive galaxy's redshift and a galaxy that is accelerating away?
 
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I don't understand the question - "super massive galaxy" is not a term I'm familiar with, and galaxies aren't typically accelerating.

Do you mean how can we distinguish between gravitational redshift from a super massive black hole and cosmological redshift? Because the gravitational redshift from a black hole at the core of a galaxy would be different across the galaxy, and insignificant beyond a barely noticeable fraction of the core. Cosmological redshift is the same for the entire galaxy.
 
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sqljunkey said:
How can someone tell the difference between a super massive galaxy's redshift and a galaxy that is accelerating away?
If you detect light you have one parameter: the measured wavelength. Any "redshift" is inferred from other factors, such as that you are observing a shifted hydrogen spectrum. There is, therefore, nothing inherent in the measured wavelength that tells you anything other than the measured wavelength.
 
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Say you observe same amount of red-shift for the two galaxies, observe distances of these galaxies from the Earth. The Shorter distance galaxy has stronger intrinsic gravity attraction, with the expanding universe considered.
 

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