Difference in flowrates depending on where the pipe splits.

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The discussion revolves around the impact of pipe diameter changes and configurations on fluid flow rates in a system where water is pumped through a series of pipes. Participants explore the implications of modifying a setup involving a 1.5" pipe splitting into multiple 0.75" pipes versus a configuration with a reducer fitting.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a system where a 1.5" pipe splits into five 0.75" pipes and questions whether changing the configuration to a reducer fitting will affect flow rates.
  • Another participant suggests that using a reducer from 1.5" to 0.75" will lead to a decay in flow rate due to an irrecoverable pressure drop, particularly if a centrifugal pump is used.
  • A different participant agrees that flow rate will decrease if a single line of the same diameter is used instead of multiple separate lines.
  • One participant adds that without the manifold and multiple exit pipes, the pump's pressure output would increase, potentially leading to issues with fittings or pipes if a positive displacement pump is used.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity of using a larger pipe from the pump if the proposed configuration is implemented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that changing the pipe configuration will affect flow rates, but there are differing views on the extent and nature of these effects, particularly regarding the type of pump used and the implications of pressure changes.

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Participants reference the Darcy-Weisbach equation and other resources for calculating pressure drop and flow, indicating that the discussion involves technical calculations and assumptions that may not be fully resolved.

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This discussion may be useful for engineers, fluid dynamics students, or professionals involved in plumbing and fluid transport systems who are exploring the effects of pipe configurations on flow rates.

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Fluid Dynamics Question:

I have a 1.5" pipe that has water pumped through it. The pipe is immediately split by a manifold into 5 separate 0.75" pipes after exiting the pump. Each 0.75" pipe runs to an outlet at varying lengths from the manifold (15", 37", 52", 89", and 126"). I want to know if my flowrates will drop if I modify this set up so that the 1.5" pipe has a reducer fitting on it to drop the pipe size to 0.75" and then use a tee fitting to branch off an 8" long pipe such that the distance from the end of the branching pipe to the reducer is the same distance as stated before.

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Hi zjn. I'm not sure I follow your diagram but I think you're saying you have a pump with a 1.5" outlet and that pipe extends out such that you have 5, .75" pipes branching off of it and you want to know if there will be a change in flow rate if you immediately reduce the 1.5" pipe to .75" and then have the .75" pipes branch off.

Assuming your pump is a centrifugal pump, yes, the flow rate will decay. There's an irrecoverable pressure drop through the reducer when going from 1.5" to .75" which isn't on the original set up. Given that most pumps have a discharge pipe fitting on them that is about as small as they can be without significant pressure drop, the reduction to .75" is very likely going to cause a large drop in the pump's output and a corresponding rise in discharge pressure on the pump.

You can determine pressure drop and flow through piping systems using the Darcey Weisbach equation as explained in most textbooks, the Crane Paper 410, or the manual called Pipe-Flo Pro I posted here.
 
zin12385
Yes your flowrate will drop if you branch off one line of same diameter as before rather than have 4 separate lines.
 
As an addendum, without the manifold and four separate exit pipes, the pressure the pump puts out would increase. If a positive displacement pump, you may end up producing a high enough pressure to blow a fitting or the pipre right after the pump.

If you want to do what you propose you would necessarily go to a larger pipe from the pump.
 

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