Differential equation on relativistic momentum (ML Boas)

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The discussion centers on deriving the distance function from the relativistic momentum equation, specifically using the formula $$p=\gamma m v$$ and the force equation $$F = \frac{md(\gamma v)}{dt}$$. Participants explore the integration of velocity expressed as $$v=\sqrt{\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}}$$ and the subsequent distance equation $$x=\frac{c}{F}\sqrt{m^2c^2 + F^2t^2} + C_1$$, where the constant is determined based on initial conditions. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly squaring terms and integrating to find the relationship between force, velocity, and distance in relativistic contexts.

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Homework Statement
The momentum ##p## of an electron at speed ##v## near the speed ##c## of light increase s according to the formula ##p=\gamma mv##, where ##\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}}##; m is a constant (mass of an electron). If an electron is subject to a constant force F, Newton's second law describing its motion is: $$\frac{dp}{dt}=\frac{d}{dt} \gamma mv=F$$. Find (a) v(t) and show that v approaches c as t approaches infinite. (b) Find the distance traveled by the electron in time t if it starts from rest.
Relevant Equations
For ##dy/dx = c##, the solution is $$y=\int {c dx}$$
$$p=\gamma m v$$
$$F = \frac {md (\gamma v}{dt}$$
$$\int{F dt} = \int{md (\gamma v}$$
$$F t= \gamma mv$$

At this step, I don't know how to make v as explicit function of t, since gamma is a function of v too. Thankss
 
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Gee, I think I just have to take quadrat on both sides. Pfft..
 
Now, I will update what I get and still can't get the distance function.
I get:
$$v^2=\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}$$, then
$$v=\sqrt{\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}}$$
 
Writing ##v=\frac{dx}{dt}## gives:
$$\frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}}$$
 
Any suggestion how to determine this integral?
 
agnimusayoti said:
Any suggestion how to determine this integral?

It's easier if you start with the correct expression for v.

agnimusayoti said:
Now, I will update what I get and still can't get the distance function.
I get:
$$v^2=\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}$$, then
$$v=\sqrt{\frac{Ft}{m^2+\frac{Ft}{c^2}}}$$

Try again. What does squaring both sides of mv = Ft/\gamma(v) give you?
 
Shoot. I forget to square Ft. Sorry,
 
Youre right.
I get this:
$$dx=\frac{cF t}{\sqrt{m^2 c^2 + F^2 t^2}} dt$$
Then, integrating this equation, I get:
$$x=\frac{c}{F}\sqrt{m^2c^2 + F^2t^2} + C_1$$
Because electron starts from rest, therefore at t=0 x = 0. So, I get ##C_1=-\frac{mc^2}{F}##.
Using this constant, I get the same answer with the solution.
Thanks. Sorry for not being meticulous.
 

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