Differential Equations - 1 vs 2 Variables?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the classification of differential equations, specifically whether exact differential equations are exclusively for two independent variables and linear differential equations for one variable. Participants explore the relationships between variables in differential equations and the implications of viewing them as independent or dependent.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether exact differential equations are only for two independent variables, suggesting that linear differential equations can also involve two variables depending on how they are framed.
  • Another participant argues that it is often more beneficial to consider both variables as interdependent rather than strictly independent or dependent, especially in the context of first-order differential equations.
  • A further contribution suggests that in cases where a differential equation can be expressed as df=0, the variables x and y are not truly independent but are related through the equation f(x,y)=c.
  • One participant emphasizes that there is no fundamental difference between the two types of equations regarding the independence of variables.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the independence of variables in differential equations, with no consensus reached on whether exact differential equations are limited to two independent variables or if linear differential equations can also involve two variables.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying interpretations of variable relationships in differential equations, highlighting the complexity of classifying them based on independence and dependence.

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greetings,
is it true that a exact differential equation is for two independent variable whereas linear differential equation is for one variable?

advanced thanks,
 
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amaresh92 said:
greetings,
is it true that a exact differential equation is for two independent variable whereas linear differential equation is for one variable?

advanced thanks,
No, it's not. The fact is that it is so easy to switch a first order d.e. from "dy/dx" to "dx/dy" that it is better, for most first order differential equations, not to think of one variable as being the "independent" variable and the other variable as "dependent". That may be what you mean when you talk about "two independent variables". You can think of either one as "depending" on the other.

The exception to that is something like [itex]dy= [(2x^2y+ sin(x))]dx[/itex] where if we think of y as a function of x we have a linear equation whereas, while we can think of x as a function of y, the equation is no longer linear and so not as easy to solve.
 
Hm maybe you have in mind a DE that can be written in a form df=0, where f is a function of x,y that is f(x,y) so x and y can be considered independent variables of the function f (so that you can take partial derivatives wrt x and y and such).

But the solution to df=0 is f(x,y)=c so in a sense x and y are not independent variables but they are connected by the equation f(x,y)=c.
 
What is really true is that it is better to think of x and y as depending on one another and not think of anthing as an "independent" or "dependent" variable. I see no difference between the two examples you give.
 

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