Differential equations, euler's method and bisection method

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) using Euler's method and the bisection method. The user has correctly identified the need to convert the second-order ODE into two first-order ODEs and has formulated the equations for Euler's method. There is uncertainty regarding the choice of step size for accurate results and how to apply the bisection method to find values of T that yield specific results for y(Iab). The user is also clarifying initial conditions and the integration process over the specified range. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the problem and systematically applying numerical methods to achieve the desired accuracy.
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Homework Statement



Hi guys, I have the following problem and I don't know how to start.

I am given that W = 0.5, X(0) = 0, Iab = 20m and ha = 5m \frac{dy}{dx}=0

and

<br /> \frac{dy^2}{d^2x}=\frac{W}{T}\sqrt{1 + (\frac{dy}{dx})^2}<br />

I am told to convert the 2nd order ODE to two 1st order ODEs at first. Then I am asked to choose an arbitrary value of T and integrate the system of equations using Euler's method from 0-Iab, where Iab=20, with 3 different step sizes. Then, I have to select the step size that gives an accurate value of y(Iab) (i.e. approximate relative error less than 0.1% if comparing with ha = 5).. Then I am asked to chose two values of T such that one gives y(Iab) smaller than ha and the other one gives y(Iab) bigger than ha and use those two values with the bisection method


Homework Equations



Euler's method: yi+1 = yi + f(xi,yi)*h where f(x,y) = \frac{dy}{dx}



The Attempt at a Solution



At first I broke it to two 1st order ODES:

\frac{dy}{dx}=g and \frac{dg}{dx}=\frac{W}{T}\sqrt{1 + g^2}

Then, for Euler's method: yi+1 = yi + gi*h and gi+1 = gi + (\frac{W}{T}\sqrt{1+gi^2})*h

My problem is, I don't know where to start in order to find y(Iab) (because the problem is asking for an accurate value of y(Iab) )... and what step size (h) to use. .. I also don't know which equation shall be used with the bisection method..

any help would be really appreciated. thank you
 
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I would suggest you go back and reread the problem. You say that X(0)= 0 but your differential equation has y as a function of x. What does X(0) mean?
 
Sorry, typo mistake. It says that the slope, at x=0, is dy/dx=0
 
and from the Picture I have, the graph, when x=0 -> y=0.

So I suppose for euler's method, suppose I choose a step size of ie, h=5, then it would be

y(5) = y(0) + g(0)*h and g(5) = g(0) + (\frac{W}{T}\sqrt{1+g(0)^2})*h

Is that correct ? And since I have to integrate from 0-20, I suppose I'll have to do y(10), y(15) and y(20) aswell, right ? (Same for g(10),g(15),g(20) ) ?
 
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