Differential Equations Problem

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation problem related to exponential growth and decay. The original poster reflects on a class topic regarding the rate of change of a variable P with respect to time t, which is stated to be proportional to the expression 10-t. The poster initially misinterprets the relationship and seeks clarification on the correct formulation and integration of the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the formulation of the differential equation and the implications of proportionality. Questions arise regarding the integration process and the appearance of a negative sign in the solution. The original poster questions whether their understanding or the teacher's answer is correct.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the integration method, suggesting the use of u-substitution to clarify the presence of the negative sign. The original poster acknowledges a misunderstanding in their approach and expresses gratitude for the clarification.

Contextual Notes

The original poster admits to misstating the problem as "proportional" instead of "inversely proportional," which has implications for the formulation of the differential equation. This correction highlights the importance of precise language in mathematical problems.

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Homework Statement


This is actually a question we went over in class, but I kind of spaced out when my teacher was explaining it. I have since solved it myself while I was reviewing for my calculus test, but when I compared my answer with the answer key my teacher provided to our class, I found out my answer was wrong. Here's the question.

"Write and solve the differential equation that models the statement in the following problem.

The rate of change of P with respect to t is proportional to 10-t."

Homework Equations


I should add that this is part of our chapter involving exponential growth and decay.


The Attempt at a Solution


Now, I understand how to do this particular problem. You essentially start off with the following differential equation:

dP/dt = K/(10-t)

You then multiply the dt over to isolate all the t variable expressions on the right side.

dP = [K/(10-t)]dt

Then you would take an indefinite integral of both sides respectively. The problem is, my teacher says that the answer should be:

P = -K*ln|10-t| + C

When I solved this on my own, I produced the same result essentially, just without a negative sign in front of the K constant. Am I missing something here? Could someone please explain to me why there should be a negative sign or did my teacher make a mistake?
 
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Daweih said:

The Attempt at a Solution


Now, I understand how to do this particular problem. You essentially start off with the following differential equation:

dP/dt = K/(10-t)

You then multiply the dt over to isolate all the t variable expressions on the right side.

dP = [K/(10-t)]dt

Then you would take an indefinite integral of both sides respectively. The problem is, my teacher says that the answer should be:

P = -K*ln|10-t| + C

When I solved this on my own, I produced the same result essentially, just without a negative sign in front of the K constant. Am I missing something here? Could someone please explain to me why there should be a negative sign or did my teacher make a mistake?
Did you integrate the right side using u-substitution? After you use that method, the negative will appear in the answer.
 
Ah, no. I didn't. I tried integrating using substitution just now, and it worked. >.<
Thank you for pointing that out to me. It makes sense now.
 
Daweih said:

Homework Statement


This is actually a question we went over in class, but I kind of spaced out when my teacher was explaining it. I have since solved it myself while I was reviewing for my calculus test, but when I compared my answer with the answer key my teacher provided to our class, I found out my answer was wrong. Here's the question.

"Write and solve the differential equation that models the statement in the following problem.

The rate of change of P with respect to t is proportional to 10-t."

Homework Equations


I should add that this is part of our chapter involving exponential growth and decay.

The Attempt at a Solution


Now, I understand how to do this particular problem. You essentially start off with the following differential equation:

dP/dt = K/(10-t)

When you say ##y## is proportional to ##x## that means there is a constant ##k## such that ##y=kx##. So if the rate of change of ##P## is proportional to ##10-t##, then ##\frac{dP}{dt}= k(10-t)##. So you either are solving the problem wrong or stated the problem you are solving wrong.
 
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That's my mistake. I stated the problem incorrectly. It should say "inversely proportional". But regardless, eumyang pointed out what I was missing. I didn't use the substitution method to integrate the differential equation, so I never produced that negative sign.
 

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