Differentiate e^(-1/2 x) sqrt(1 + 2x) - troubles

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The discussion revolves around differentiating the function y = e^(-1/2 x) √(1 + 2x) and finding the x-coordinates where the derivative equals zero. Participants are exploring the differentiation process and the implications of the results.

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the function but is unsure about their answer. Some participants suggest using the product rule and checking the derivatives of the individual components. Others question the assumptions made during differentiation and the setup of the equation to find x-coordinates.

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Participants are actively discussing the differentiation process and the steps needed to solve for x. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the product rule and the chain rule, with multiple interpretations of the differentiation steps being explored. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There is mention of a booklet providing an answer for the x-coordinate, which is 0.5, but participants are still working through the differentiation and solving process to verify this result.

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the curve y = e^ −1/2x √(1 + 2x) please differentiate this equation i am having some problem.. i want to check my answer

My answer :

e^-1/2x { (1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2) }

In fact i need to find the x-coordinates and according the booklet the answer of the x-coordinate is 0.5 and me i cannot have the answer ( need to equal the dy/dx = 0 ) to find x-coordinate
 
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Do you need to find the value of x where dy/dx=0? You derived the equation already, put it equal to 0 and solve. As the exponent can not be zero, the factor { (1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2) }=0.

ehild
 


differentiation of two products means you must use the product rule.

if y=uv, where u and v are functions of x, such as in your case you have [itex]u=e^{-x/2}[/itex] and [itex]v=(1+2x)^{1/2}[/itex]

then [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=u\frac{dv}{dx}+v\frac{du}{dx}[/tex]

Ok so what is [tex]\frac{dv}{dx}[/tex] and what is [tex]\frac{du}{dx}[/tex] ?

Solve these separately first and we'll show you if you made any mistakes anywhere in your differentiation.
 


Mentallic said:
differentiation of two products means you must use the product rule.

if y=uv, where u and v are functions of x, such as in your case you have [itex]u=e^{-x/2}[/itex] and [itex]v=(1+2x)^{1/2}[/itex]

then [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=u\frac{dv}{dx}+v\frac{du}{dx}[/tex]

Ok so what is [tex]\frac{dv}{dx}[/tex] and what is [tex]\frac{du}{dx}[/tex] ?

Solve these separately first and we'll show you if you made any mistakes anywhere in your differentiation.

Okk so for U = e^-1/2x...du/dx = -1/2 e^-1/2x

and for V = (1+2x)^1/2...dv/dx = (1+2x)^-1/2

and i replace in y=uv
 


Nearly. For [tex]v=(1+2x)^{1/2}[/tex] you need to remember to take the derivative of the inside of the brackets by the chain rule. For [tex]y=[f(x)]^n[/tex], [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=n[f(x)]^{n-1}.f'(x)[/tex]

And then you replace in [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=uv'+vu'[/tex] where v' is the derivative of v with respect to x, or [tex]\frac{dv}{dx}[/tex] and similarly for u'.
 


Mentallic said:
Nearly. For [tex]v=(1+2x)^{1/2}[/tex] you need to remember to take the derivative of the inside of the brackets by the chain rule. For [tex]y=[f(x)]^n[/tex], [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=n[f(x)]^{n-1}.f'(x)[/tex]

And then you replace in [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}=uv'+vu'[/tex] where v' is the derivative of v with respect to x, or [tex]\frac{dv}{dx}[/tex] and similarly for u'.


no i have already evalute,, 1/2 (1+2x) ^-1/2 x 2 = (1 +2x) ^-1/2
 


ehild said:
Do you need to find the value of x where dy/dx=0? You derived the equation already, put it equal to 0 and solve. As the exponent can not be zero, the factor { (1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2) }=0.

ehild


hmmm no let the exponential and x-coordinate part,, help me to differentiate, infact i have differentiate, but i am not obtaining the answer
 


yeahh infact the x-coordinate of a maximum point
 


You have differentiate the y(x) function already. Now you have to solve the equation

(1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2)=0

I rewrite it in tex so as you see more clearly:

[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+2x}}-\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{1+2x}=0[/tex]

hint: Multiply the equation with (1+2x) ^1/2.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
You have differentiate the y(x) function already. Now you have to solve the equation

(1+2x )^-1/2 + (1+2x)^1/2 (-1/2)=0

I rewrite it in tex so as you see more clearly:

[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+2x}}-\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{1+2x}=0[/tex]

hint: Multiply the equation with (1+2x) ^1/2.

ehild

[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+2x}}-\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{1+2x}=0[/tex]

Till here i have reached, so

1 / (1+2x)^1/2 = 1/2 (1+2x)^1/2

If i use your hint i get: 0 = 1/2 (1+2X) ^1/2 x (1+2X) ^1/2

Aww now how should i break the brackets ?
 
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## Oppps i think that it is not zero but one
 
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jinx007 said:
[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+2x}}-\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{1+2x}=0[/tex]

Till here i have reached, so

1 / (1+2x)^1/2 = 1/2 (1+2x)^1/2

If i use your hint i get: 0 = 1/2 (1+2X) ^1/2 x (1+2X) ^1/2

Aww now how should i break the brackets ?

Your last equation is totally wrong. I said multiply the whole equation by
(1+2X) ^1/2. Do it with your first equation, it is correct.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Your last equation is totally wrong. I said multiply the whole equation by
(1+2X) ^1/2. Do it with your first equation, it is correct.

ehild


so the equation is like this after the multiplication:

1= 1/2 (1+2X)^1/2 X (1+2X) ^1/2

1 = 1/2 (1 + 2x)

is it correct?
 
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by the way the answer that is the x-coordinate is 0.5 according to the booklet
 
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jinx007 said:
so the equation is like this after the multiplication:

1= 1/2 (1+2X)^1/2 X (1+2X) ^1/2

1 = 1/2 (1 + 2x)

is it correct?
Yes, that is correct. And that is a simple linear equation. Solve it for x.
 

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