Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around differentiating the integral $\int _S f \ln f$ with respect to the function $f$. Participants explore the interpretation of the integral, the differentiation process, and the implications of the notation used. The conversation includes technical reasoning and clarifications related to functional forms and notation.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant interprets the integral as $\int _S f(x) \ln f(x)dx$ and suggests that the derivative is $\ln f(x)$.
- Another participant proposes that the integral should be written as $\int _S^f \ln f df$ and discusses the differentiation of this form, leading to the same result of $\ln f$.
- A later participant introduces a more complex functional $J(f)$ involving a concave function and differentiates it with respect to $f(x)$, yielding a more elaborate expression that includes terms like $-\ln f(x) - 1 + \lambda_0 + \sum_k \lambda_k r_k(x)$.
- One participant questions the notation and suggests that $f$ might not be a function but rather an element of a convex set, leading to confusion about the interpretation of the integral.
- There is uncertainty about the boundaries of the integrals and the meaning of $f(x)$ as the xth component of $f$.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing interpretations of the integral and its differentiation, with no consensus reached on the correct notation or meaning of the terms involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of the notation and the implications of the functional forms presented.
Contextual Notes
Participants note the lack of specified boundaries for the integrals and the potential need for clarification of the symbols and notation used in the original problem statement. There is also ambiguity regarding whether $f$ is a function or an element of a convex set.