Differentiating Complex Exponentials

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The problem involves expressing the position of a particle undergoing damped oscillations, given by the equation x = 2e^{-t}\sin(3t), in terms of a single complex exponential. The goal is to evaluate the particle's velocity based on this expression.

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Matty R
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Hello :smile:

I'm currently using past papers to revise for January exams, and I've found a bit of a problem with something I thought I was okay with.

Homework Statement


The position at time t of a particle undergoing damped oscillations is given by:

x = 2e^{-t}\sin(3t).

Express this in terms of a single complex exponential.

Hence evaluate the particle's velocity, v = \frac{dy}{dx}


Homework Equations



e^{i \theta} = cos(\theta) + isin(\theta)

Chain Rule: \frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{dy}{du} \cdot \frac{du}{dx}


The Attempt at a Solution



x = 2e^{-t}sin(3t)

sin(3t) = \text{Im} \left[e^{i3t} \right]

x = \text{Im} \left[2e^{-t}\cdot e^{i3t} \right]

= 2 \text{Im} \left[e^{-t} \cdot e^{i3t} \right]

= 2 \text{Im} \left[e^{-t + i3t} \right]

= 2 \text{Im} \left[ e^{(-1 + 3i)t} \right]

v = \frac{dx}{dt}

= 2 \text{Im} \left[(-1 + 3i) e^{-t} (cos(3t) + isin(3t)) \right]

= 2e^{-t} (-cos(3t) - 3sin(3t))

Thats the answer I get by following the only example I have of this from my lecture notes. However, that example was concerned with the real part of the complex exponential.

The baseline solutions to the paper give the following answer:

v = 2e^{-t}(3cos(3t) - sin(3t))

Does anyone know what I've done wrong, or missed?

Thanks.
 
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Hello Matty R! :smile:

You've taken the real part …

just take the other bits instead! :wink:

(and chuck away the i)
 
Hiya tim. Nice to see you again. :smile:

That makes perfect sense. I've managed to get the same answer as the solutions now, and I was wondering if you'd be so kind as to confirm what I did.

For the real part:

2e^{-t} \left[(-1 \times cos(3t)) + (3i \times isin(3t) \right]

For the imaginary part:

2e^{-t} \left[(3i \times cos(3t)) + (-1 \times isin(3t) \right]

Then discard the "i"s
 
Yup! :biggrin:
 
Brilliant. Thank you very much. :smile:
 

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