MHB Differentiation With L'Hopital's Rule

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The discussion focuses on solving two problems using L'Hopital's Rule. For question 2a, the user correctly applied the rule to find the answer as ln6 - ln3, although simplification was suggested. In question 2b, the user initially miscalculated the limit, thinking it resulted in infinity, but after further analysis, they recognized it was an indeterminate form of 0/0. Applying L'Hopital's Rule again led to the correct conclusion that the limit evaluates to 1. The exchange emphasizes the importance of careful application of L'Hopital's Rule in calculus.
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Hey guys,

Need some more help again. I'll keep it brief.

This thread is only for question 2ab. Please ignore question 1:
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For 2a, I simply employed L'Hopital's Rule since 0/0 is indeterminate form. Thus, my final answer came out to be: ln6-ln3.

As for 2b, I computed an indeterminate form in the form of 0^0, which requires L'Hopital's Rule.

After taking the derivative of both the numerator and denominator respectively, I ultimately obtained 0.
Thanks in advance.
 
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ardentmed said:
Hey guys,

Need some more help again. I'll keep it brief.

This thread is only for question 2ab. Please ignore question 1:For 2a, I simply employed L'Hopital's Rule since 0/0 is indeterminate form. Thus, my final answer came out to be: ln6-ln3.

As for 2b, I computed an indeterminate form in the form of 0^0, which requires L'Hopital's Rule.

After taking the derivative of both the numerator and denominator respectively, I ultimately obtained 0.
Thanks in advance.

Hi ardentmed, :)

The answer for 2a is correct. However you can simplify it a little bit using the rules of logarithms. Could you see how?

The answer for 2b is incorrect. Could you write down your attempt at solving it so that I can tell where you made the mistake. :)
 
Sudharaka said:
Hi ardentmed, :)

The answer for 2a is correct. However you can simplify it a little bit using the rules of logarithms. Could you see how?

The answer for 2b is incorrect. Could you write down your attempt at solving it so that I can tell where you made the mistake. :)

Sure, I carried down the x as I converted the function to its logarithmic form, giving me xlntan(2x), I then proceeded to move the x down into the denominator (so it becomes 1/x in the denominator).

Moreover, I applied L'Hopital's Rule and took the derivative (albeit I'm not too sure if the function actually gives 0/0, but it looks like it).

This gave me:

2sec^2(2x) / tan(2x) * (-x^2 / 1) = infinity.

So the answer would be e^infinity = +infinity.

I'm at a loss as to how I arrived at this answer, as I'm almost definite that it is incorrect. I'd appreciate some help.

Thanks in advance.
 
Have you tried to apply L'hopital's rule again? 2sec^2(2x) / tan(2x) * (-x^2 / 1) seems to be in that form.
 
Rido12 said:
Have you tried to apply L'hopital's rule again? 2sec^2(2x) / tan(2x) * (-x^2 / 1) seems to be in that form.

Oh, is it in indeterminate form? I computed it to be infinity, but it could potentially be 0/0, but I'm not too sure.
 
$$\ln\left({y}\right)= \lim_{{x}\to{0^+}} \frac{2(sec2x)^2(-x^2)}{tan2x} $$ is of the form 0/0.
 
Rido12 said:
$$\ln\left({y}\right)= \lim_{{x}\to{0^+}} \frac{2(sec2x)^2(-x^2)}{tan2x} $$ is of the form 0/0.

Alright, so I performed another round of L'Hopital's rule and computed lny=0 because:

lny= $\lim_{{x}\to{0+}} (-4x^2 * tan2x-x)/1 $

Ergo,

y= e^0

Thus, the limit is 1.

Am I on the right track? Thanks.
 
That is correct, the limit evaluates to 1.