Difficult Summation Problem Grade 12

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Determine a formula for the sum of
[itex]\sum[/itex] iri-1
in terms of n and r.

I am stuck on this, i don't understand what to do with the "i" infront of the ri-1i know that [itex]\sum[/itex] ri-1 = (1-rn ) /1-r

all sums are for an index of i=1 to n
I just don't know how to go any farther. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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You don't have any limits on your sum. You should. But here's a hint. The derivative of r^i with respect to r is i*r^(i-1).
 
how will finding the derivative of the sum help me find the formula for the sum?
 
slapshotphil said:
how will finding the derivative of the sum help me find the formula for the sum?

Define the sum first. If you don't have any limits on it, it doesn't mean anything.
 
slapshotphil said:
how will finding the derivative of the sum help me find the formula for the sum?

What is the sum Ʃri from i=1 to i=n?


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the sum of ri is...

1-rn
1-r

but for the derivative of that i got
(-nrn-1)(1-r) - (1-rn)(-1)
(1-r)2

which is not the correct answer...

any hints?
 
slapshotphil said:
the sum of ri is...

1-rn
1-r

but for the derivative of that i got
(-nrn-1)(1-r) - (1-rn)(-1)
(1-r)2

which is not the correct answer...

any hints?

Your sum is incorrect. it should be [1-r^(n+1)]/[1-r] if its from i = 0 to n

So subtract the term where i = 0 to get the proper sum from 1 to n