Dirac Equation for H atom - what's the small r behaviour?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the small-r behavior of the Dirac equation wavefunction for the hydrogen atom, comparing it to the Schrödinger wavefunction. Participants explore the asymptotic behavior of the Dirac spinor components for specific quantum states and seek references for explicit solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Schrödinger wavefunction for the hydrogen atom scales as r^l for small r, questioning whether this changes significantly for the Dirac equation wavefunction.
  • There is inquiry into whether the small component of the Dirac spinor exhibits the same small-r asymptotic behavior as the large component.
  • One participant references a book by J.J. Sakurai, suggesting that the upper components of the Dirac spinor yield results similar to those of the Schrödinger equation, particularly regarding angular momentum and kinetic energy terms.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of information on the lower components of the Dirac spinor in existing literature.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for a table of explicit solutions for the lowest energy states of the Dirac hydrogen atom, contrasting it with the availability of such information for the Schrödinger case.
  • References to other texts, such as Bethe & Salpeter's book and "Relativistic Wave Mechanics" by Corinaldesi and Strocchi, are suggested as potential sources for further information.
  • A participant mentions the relevance of the Dirac equation in calculating energy splitting due to relativistic effects, particularly in the context of the electron electric dipole moment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the small-r behavior of the Dirac wavefunction, with some agreement on the similarity of upper components to the Schrödinger case, but no consensus on the behavior of the lower components or the availability of explicit solutions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the lack of detailed information on the lower components of the Dirac spinor and the absence of comprehensive tables for explicit solutions in the literature.

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The Schrödinger wavefunction for the hydrogen atom scales as r^l for small r, where l is the orbital angular momentum. Is this changed in any dramatic way for the Dirac equation wavefuction? Does the small component of the Dirac spinor have the same small-r asymptotic behaviour as the large component? Can someone tell me the small r behaviour for the 1S j=1/2 state and 2P j=1/2,3/2 states? Thanks in advance.
 
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petergreat said:
The Schrödinger wavefunction for the hydrogen atom scales as r^l for small r, where l is the orbital angular momentum. Is this changed in any dramatic way for the Dirac equation wavefuction? Does the small component of the Dirac spinor have the same small-r asymptotic behaviour as the large component? Can someone tell me the small r behaviour for the j=1/2, n=1 state and j=1/2,3/2, n=2 states? Thanks in advance.

According to this book (Advanced Quantum mechanics by J.J. Sakurai), the 2 upper component of Dirac spinor (4 x 1) for hydrogen atom gives very similar results to those of Schrödinger's hydrogen atom. (Of course, the angular momentums are the same, too.)
(So the "radial" boundary conditions are from zero to infinity in both Schrödinger and Dirac's hydrogens. )
This means in both cases, the divergence scales or signs of "tangential" and "radial" kinetic energies in small r are almost same only in the 2 upper components .

But unfortunately, there are no more comments about the 2 lower components of the Dirac spinor for hydrogen atom in this book. :confused:
(As far as I know, this book explains this interpretation (of Dirac hydrogen) in more detail than other books.)

Of course, the lower components of Dirac spinor also have angular momentums, and are incorporated into the upper kinetic energy term. So these are indispensable.
 
I want to find a table that enumerates the explicit solutions of the lowest energy states, but didn't find any... unlike the Schrödinger case which I can find almost anywhere.
 
Have you tried to look into Bethe & Salpeter's book ? I heard it's very good. It might contain what you're looking for.
 
The full solution for the Dirac hydrogen atom can be found in "Relativistic Wave Mechanics" by Corinaldesi and Strocchi, pp202-206.
 
Thanks! I'll check the book.
By the way, I asked this question because I was reading about how an electron electric dipole moment, if it exists and is sufficiently large, would affect the atomic spectrum in an external electric field. It turns out that the Schrödinger equation predicts no change in energy level to first order, and one has to use the Dirac equation to take relativistic effects into account to compute the energy splitting.
 

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