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The discussion revolves around the proof of Proposition 2.1.1 from Paul E. Bland's book on rings and modules, specifically focusing on the properties of direct products and direct sums of modules. Participants seek clarification on the necessity of the mappings being R-linear and how this property is utilized in the proof.

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  • Peter questions where the R-linearity of the mappings is used in the proof of Proposition 2.1.1 and why it is necessary for the mappings to be homomorphisms.
  • Some participants suggest that the linearity of the mappings is a given in the context of R-modules and that it extends to the mapping f.
  • Peter expresses uncertainty about how to prove that f is R-linear, despite knowing that the projections are R-linear and that the relationship between f and the mappings f_alpha holds.
  • A later reply suggests writing down the definition of f and using the R-linearity of all f_alpha to demonstrate that f is R-linear.

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Participants generally agree that the R-linearity of the mappings is important, but there is no consensus on how it is applied in the proof or how to demonstrate that f is R-linear.

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The discussion highlights the dependence on the definitions of R-modules and the properties of linear mappings, but does not resolve the specific steps needed to prove the linearity of f.

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I am reading Paul E. Bland's book: Rings and Their Modules and am currently focused on Section 2.1 Direct Products and Direct Sums ... ...

I need help with some aspects of the proof of Proposition 2.1.1 ...

Proposition 2.1.1 and its proof read as follows:
Bland - Proposition 2.1.1 ... .png

In the statement of the above proposition we read the following:

" ... ... for every ##R##-module ##N## and every family ##\{ f_\alpha \ : \ N \rightarrow M_\alpha \}_\Delta## of ##R##-linear mappings there is a unique ##R##-linear mapping ##f \ : \ N \rightarrow \prod_\Delta M_\alpha## ... ... "The proposition declares the family of mappings ##\{ f_\alpha \ : \ N \rightarrow M_\alpha \}_\Delta## as ##R##-linear mappings and also declares that ##f## (see below for definition of ##f##!) is an ##R##-linear mapping ...

... BUT ...

I cannot see where in the proof the fact that they are ##R##-linear mappings is used ...

Can someone please explain where in the proof the fact that the family of mappings ##\{ f_\alpha \ : \ N \rightarrow M_\alpha \}_\Delta## and ##f## are R-linear mappings is used ... basically ... why do these mappings have to be ##R##-linear (that is, homomorphisms...) ... ?
Help will be much appreciated ...

Peter======================================================================================The above post mentions but does not define ##f## ... Bland's definition of ##f## is as follows:
Bland - Defn of f in Propn 2.1.1 , page 40 ... .png
Hope that helps ...

Peter***EDIT***

In respect of ##f## it seems we have to prove ##f## is an ##R##-linear mapping ... but then ... where is this done ...
 

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I cannot see where in the proof the fact that they are ##R-##linear mappings is used ...
Have you tried to prove that ##f## is ##R-##linear without using this property of the ##f_\alpha\,?## It is part of the set up, as we consider ##R-##modules, and thus the morphisms in this category have to be ##R-##linear. The linearity of the ##f_\alpha## extend to the linearity of ##f##, a property (of ##f\,##) which isn't used, but has to be shown (in order to stay in the category). But you will need the linearity of the ##f_\alpha## but these are given.
 
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Thanks fresh_42

Appreciate your help ...

Peter
 
Hi fresh_42 ...

... have tried the following ..

We need to show ##f## is an ##R##-linear map (homomorphism) ...

We are given that the ##f_\alpha## are ##R##-linear maps, and we know that the projections ##\pi_\alpha## are ##R##-linear maps ...

We also know that ##\pi_\alpha f = f_\alpha## for each ##\alpha \in \Delta## ... ... ... ... ... (1)

Now ... we know that if ##f## is an ##R##-linear mapping then (1) holds true but ...

... how do you prove that f must necessarily be an ##R##-linear map ... ...... can you help ... ... ?

Peter
 
Just write down the definition: ##f(r\cdot x + s \cdot y) = \ldots ## with ##x=(x_\alpha)\; , \;y=(y_\alpha)## and ##f = \Pi_\alpha f_\alpha## and use the ##R-##linearity of all ##f_\alpha##.
 
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