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In summary: When Bland puts ##g(x) = ( x_\alpha )## he is writing down some (any) homomorphism ##g##. It has ##x## as input and an element of the direct product as output. Those elements are of the form ##(x_\alpha )\,.## He does not specify a particular ##g##.
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I am reading Paul E. Bland's book: Rings and Their Modules and am currently focused on Section 2.1 Direct Products and Direct Sums ... ...

I need help with another aspect of the proof of Proposition 2.1.1 ...

Proposition 2.1.1 and its proof read as follows:
Bland - Proposition 2.1.1 ... .png
In the above proof by Paul Bland we read the following:

" ... ... suppose that ##g \ : \ N \rightarrow \prod_\Delta M_\alpha## is also an ##R##-linear mapping such that ##\pi_\alpha g = f_\alpha## for each ##\alpha \in \Delta##. If ##g(x) = ( x_\alpha )## ... ... "When Bland puts ##g(x) = ( x_\alpha )## he seems to be specifying a particular ##g## and then proves ##f = g## ... ... I thought he was proving that for any ##g## such that ##\pi_\alpha g = f_\alpha## we have ##f = g## ... can someone please clarify ... ?Help will be much appreciated ... ...Peter
======================================================================================The above post mentions but does not define ##f## ... Bland's definition of ##f## is as follows:
Bland - Defn of f in Propn 2.1.1 , page 40 ... .png
Hope that helps ...

Peter
 

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When Bland puts ##g(x) = ( x_\alpha )## ...
he is writing down some (any) homomorphism ##g##. It has ##x## as input and an element of the direct product as output. Those elements are of the form ##(x_\alpha )\,.## He does not specify
... a particular ##g##.
Particular only in so far, as he has only one ##g##, but this always looks as described. He did not make any assumptions on the ##x_\alpha## other than ##x_\alpha \in M_\alpha ##.

It's like saying: Consider a function ##g: \mathbb{R} \longrightarrow \mathbb{R}^2## given by ##g(x)=(x_1,x_2)##. Does it tell you how the function works? It only says ##g: \mathbb{R} \longrightarrow \mathbb{R}^2\,.##
 
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he is writing down some (any) homomorphism ##g##. It has ##x## as input and an element of the direct product as output. Those elements are of the form ##(x_\alpha )\,.## He does not specify
Particular only in so far, as he has only one ##g##, but this always looks as described. He did not make any assumptions on the ##x_\alpha## other than ##x_\alpha \in M_\alpha ##.

It's like saying: Consider a function ##g: \mathbb{R} \longrightarrow \mathbb{R}^2## given by ##g(x)=(x_1,x_2)##. Does it tell you how the function works? It only says ##g: \mathbb{R} \longrightarrow \mathbb{R}^2\,.##
Thanks fresh_42 ... that clarifies that issue ...

Appreciate your help ...

Peter
 

1. What is a direct product of modules?

A direct product of modules is a mathematical construction that combines two or more modules to form a new module. It is denoted as M1 x M2 x ... x Mn and consists of all possible combinations of elements from each individual module.

2. How is a direct product of modules different from a direct sum?

A direct product of modules is different from a direct sum in the way it combines the elements. In a direct product, the elements are combined in a coordinate-wise manner, whereas in a direct sum, they are combined in a linear manner.

3. What are the properties of a direct product of modules?

Some properties of a direct product of modules include commutativity, associativity, and distributivity. It also has a unique identity element and every element has an inverse.

4. How is a direct product of modules used in linear algebra?

In linear algebra, a direct product of modules is used to construct new modules from existing ones. It is also used to represent the Cartesian product of vector spaces and to define the direct sum of subspaces.

5. Can a direct product of modules be infinite?

Yes, a direct product of modules can be infinite. It is defined for any number of modules, including an infinite number. In fact, the direct product of infinitely many modules is a commonly used construction in mathematics and physics.

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