Discover the Fascinating One-Eyed Animal: Facts and Myths

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of animals that develop with only one eye, exploring various hypotheses, evolutionary perspectives, and examples from biology. Participants engage in a mix of speculative reasoning and factual inquiry, touching on evolutionary advantages, symmetry, and the nature of vision in different species.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that flat fish may have a unique eye development due to their flattened shape, though this is debated.
  • Others mention the Polyphemus moth and caterpillars, noting that these creatures typically have two eyes, challenging the initial question.
  • There is a discussion about the evolutionary advantages of having two eyes, with some arguing that it provides redundancy for vision.
  • Some participants propose that euglena, a unicellular organism, has an eye spot but does not fit the criteria of having a true eye.
  • Worms are mentioned as potentially having light-sensitive ends that could be considered "eyes."
  • Participants explore the idea of symmetry versus redundancy in eye development, with some favoring symmetry as a primary reason for having two eyes.
  • There are references to extreme birth defects in humans, such as cyclopia, which raises questions about the necessity of two eyes for survival.
  • Some participants discuss the evolutionary history of eyes, suggesting that multiple eyes were more common in primitive sea creatures.
  • There is speculation about whether certain species, like some lizards, could function with just one eye due to their unique visual capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether any animals develop with only one eye, and multiple competing views remain regarding the evolutionary significance of having two eyes versus one.

Contextual Notes

Some claims are based on anecdotal evidence or personal observations, and there are unresolved questions about the evolutionary pathways that led to the development of eyes in various species.

  • #31
Originally posted by Njorl
I think "the man from Nantucket" would be genetically selected against. I mean, why ever go out? :wink:

There are asymmetries. There are singular internal organs that are not in the center, liver, stomach, appendix etc.

I bet external asymmetries might have been selected against. Consider the case where some are natural. An additional asymmetry would be a genetic defect, which would usually be harmful. It would be more rare for a symmetry to be the result of a harmful (or any) defect. So, when choosing a prospective mate, choosing the more symmetric one would have a better chance of producing thriving offspring.

Unless you're a fiddler crab.

Njorl

I actually saw some study on television where they tested the symmetry of random people against that of olympians, and the olympians were far more symmetrical than the average person, supporting your statement.
 
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  • #32
Originally posted by Loren Booda
Then there's the asymmetry in some unfortunate humans where almost all of the internal organs and/or systems are reversed. Does anyone know the name of this condition, and what its complications are?
The condition is called Situs Inversus and in principle doesn't bring any complications with it.
 
  • #33
The prevalence of situs inversus in Scandinavia is about one in 8000, in the USA one in 11000.
 
  • #34
Besides those one-eyed rogues you find in every deck of playing cards, there is Cyclops Bicuspidatus, a one-eyed crustacean beauty.
 
  • #35
I actually found this thread because I was wondering if there were animals with one eye.
The reason I was searching is because I was reading a PDF on my computer, and I had my hand over one eye (non-intentionally). I noticed that the text was moving in and out, having no specific depth. So I instantly discovered that the second eye is there for depth.

For those who say there is depth perception with one eye, I am afraid you are mistaken, open a PDF, read with one eye and see for yourself. Or read a book.

Peace.
 
  • #36
My book "The Deep" is at home, but there's a picture of a fish which lives along the transition zone and has one giant eye looking down (where it's dark) and another small eye looking up (where it's bright). So, it has two eyes but does not have binocular vision.

I would think having a single eye is a disadvantage- no redundancy. If it failed, the animal would be blind.
 
  • #37
If I remember correctly, there's a shrimp that lives around deep-sea vents that has a single eye on it's back.
 
  • #38
I'm curious as to at what evolutionary point a light-sensing organ qualifies as an eye. Does it have to have a lens? A pupil? Focusing muscles? :confused:
 
  • #39
Danger said:
I'm curious as to at what evolutionary point a light-sensing organ qualifies as an eye. Does it have to have a lens? A pupil? Focusing muscles? :confused:

Exactly, that's why i thought it was weird. I'm pretty sure it was only light-sensing. Perhaps bio-luminescent prey? There was concern as to weather the bright lights on the submarine blinded the critters for life. Also, if they are shrimp, they would have had shallow water ancestors. IE, they wouldn't have evolved on the ocean floor.
 
  • #40
Danger said:
I'm curious as to at what evolutionary point a light-sensing organ qualifies as an eye. Does it have to have a lens? A pupil? Focusing muscles? :confused:

I would think an eye has more function that a simple sensor- imaging versus detecting. For example, plants exhibit phototropism, but nobody would (seriously) claim plants can see.

so an eye must have some optical element- a curved surface- in addition to at least one detector element.
 
  • #41
Andy Resnick said:
I would think an eye has more function that a simple sensor- imaging versus detecting. For example, plants exhibit phototropism, but nobody would (seriously) claim plants can see.

so an eye must have some optical element- a curved surface- in addition to at least one detector element.

The simplest then, would most likely have been a pin-hole eye
 
  • #42
Some snakes have 'pit organs', which are similar to pinhole cameras:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_sensing_in_snakes

But again, there is a cluster of detector elements within the pit organ- not a single detector element.

The animal I mentioned about is 'Stigmatoteuthis arcturi', the Arcturus jewel squid.
 
  • #43
Did not read the whole thred .. but some simple cell organisms have only one light sensing detector ... Euglena Viridis if I recall it right.
 
  • #44
Andy Resnick said:
I would think having a single eye is a disadvantage- no redundancy. If it failed, the animal would be blind.

Though, if the ancestor of an animal with a single eye had been blind, there's no reason to really think there was any disadvantage to only having one eye, or losing that one eye as long as there was no loss of their other sensory organs. There are cave-dwelling species that are relatives of more surface-dwelling species, and either lack eyes or lack functional eyes.

On the other hand, the eye is an extension of the nervous system and the optic nerves are just one of many paired nerves extending from the brain and spinal cord, so it very well could be that there are not examples of organisms with only one eye, because the eye evolved after a developed brain with two hemispheres and paired nerves had already evolved.

A single, fused eye, might be less likely since the optic cups form so early in embryonic development that any mutation or disruption of development at that stage that might lead to fusion of the eyes may also be embryonically lethal since that's a pretty critical stage for nervous system development in general.
 
  • #45
Loren Booda said:
My guess is that a universal minimum of two eyes provides evolutionary redundancy for all-important vision in case of an accident.

Organisms must be symmetric in order to efficiently store the genetic code, so a one-eyed organism would need it's eye in the center. However, since it does not cost any additional genetic storage space, two eyes are better because they allow

a) wider field of view
b) depth triangulation (eg, stereo vision)
c) placement of eye outside of the symmetry plane
d) sight redundancy in case one eye is damaged

Given that no additional coding is required, and the benefits are substantial, I cannot see any reason why a 1-eyed organism would persist in a competitive ecosystem.
 
  • #46
Moonbear said:
Though, if the ancestor of an animal with a single eye had been blind, there's no reason to really think there was any disadvantage to only having one eye, or losing that one eye as long as there was no loss of their other sensory organs. There are cave-dwelling species that are relatives of more surface-dwelling species, and either lack eyes or lack functional eyes.

On the other hand, the eye is an extension of the nervous system and the optic nerves are just one of many paired nerves extending from the brain and spinal cord, so it very well could be that there are not examples of organisms with only one eye, because the eye evolved after a developed brain with two hemispheres and paired nerves had already evolved.

A single, fused eye, might be less likely since the optic cups form so early in embryonic development that any mutation or disruption of development at that stage that might lead to fusion of the eyes may also be embryonically lethal since that's a pretty critical stage for nervous system development in general.

Good points- I hadn't considered the eye in context of the nervous system. The retina is part of the brain, after all!
 

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