Discover the Spectacular Sky Color on a K4.5V Main Sequence Star"

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The discussion centers on the hypothetical color of the sky on an Earth-like planet orbiting a K4.5V main sequence star, specifically considering the effects of the star's luminosity and color spectrum. Participants explore the implications of scattering and light diffusion in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the sky would scatter light similarly to Earth, leaning towards blue wavelengths, despite the star emitting more red light.
  • Others suggest that the proximity of the planet to the star could lead to a more diffused light, potentially resulting in a yellowish sky.
  • A participant mentions that with a luminosity of about 0.25, the planet would be in a closer orbit, which could influence the sky's color.
  • There is a discussion about the color index of the star, with references to epsilon Indi and its implications for the sky's appearance.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the effects of light scattering, noting that there may be less blue light available for diffusion.
  • One participant notes that as the altitude of the star decreases, similar effects observed on Earth would apply, such as dimming and reddening of the light.
  • There is a suggestion that shadows cast by the star may appear more contrasting compared to those cast by the Sun due to differences in brightness and color.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the expected color of the sky, with no consensus reached on the exact outcome. Some agree on the potential for a yellowish hue, while others emphasize the scattering effects that could still favor blue wavelengths.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of light scattering and its dependence on various factors, including the star's luminosity and color index, as well as the atmospheric conditions of the hypothetical planet.

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Hi,

If you were to half Earth's orbit around a K4.5V main sequence star (assuming the same composition and density of atmosphere), what colour would the sky be?

Thanks in advance.

Chinspinner
 
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Chinspinner said:
Hi,

If you were to half Earth's orbit around a K4.5V main sequence star (assuming the same composition and density of atmosphere), what colour would the sky be?

Thanks in advance.

Chinspinner

What are your thoughts?
 
berkeman said:
What are your thoughts?

I forgot to mention that the star has a luminosity of about 0.25, hence the earth-like planet being in closer orbit.

Part of me is thinking that light will scatter in the same way as on Earth towards the blue wavelength. However, the light the star is emitting will be more towards the red wavelength, and I am not sure if the relative proximity of the planet will make a significant difference (towards violet).

I am imagining a more diffused light and perhaps a more yellow sky, but this is what I need help with.
 
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Chinspinner said:
I forgot to mention that the star has a luminosity of about 0.25, hence the earth-like planet being in closer orbit.
With K5, it is roughly the description of epsilon Indi. Whose colour index is 1,06.
Chinspinner said:
Part of me is thinking that light will scatter in the same way as on Earth towards the blue wavelength. However, the light the star is emitting will be more towards the red wavelength, and I am not sure if the relative proximity of the planet will make a significant difference (towards violet).
No. There is nearly no extinction or reddening in the nearly empty space inside Earth orbit.
Chinspinner said:
I am imagining a more diffused light and perhaps a more yellow sky, but this is what I need help with.
Less blue, yes, but I´m imagining less diffused light. Because there is less blue light to be diffused.
 
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snorkack said:
With K5, it is roughly the description of epsilon Indi. Whose colour index is 1,06.

No. There is nearly no extinction or reddening in the nearly empty space inside Earth orbit.

Less blue, yes, but I´m imagining less diffused light. Because there is less blue light to be diffused.

Thanks. It is Epsilon Indi, so I would also have more distant brown dwarves to add into the mix. So we are effectively looking at an earth-like sky but perhaps a lighter shade of pale and a reddish sun?
 
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Chinspinner said:
Thanks. It is Epsilon Indi, so I would also have more distant brown dwarves to add into the mix. So we are effectively looking at an earth-like sky but perhaps a lighter shade of pale and a reddish sun?
Yes.
Note that ALL these effects happen on Earth as the altitude of Sun decreases. Sun gets both dimmer and redder as it approaches horizon in the evening, the sky also gets less bright as well as a paler shade of blue.

But these happen at slightly different rates. Notably, as Sun sinks, the brightness of Sun decreases relative to the decreasing brightness of sky above. Whereas Epsilon Indi high in sky may look like Sun low in the sky in its brightness and colour, but the brightness and colour of the sky may look like Earth sky with Sun even lower. So the shadows cast by Epsilon Indi should look slightly more contrasting than shadows cast by Sun.
 
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