Discovering the Perfect Optics: Mirrors and Prisms for Precise Light Reflection

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The discussion centers around the challenge of finding a mirror or prism that can reflect incident light rays parallel to a fixed axis, regardless of the angle of incidence. Participants explore various optical devices and configurations, including mirrors, prisms, and fiber optics, while considering both theoretical and practical implications.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that right angle prisms reflect light parallel to an axis but questions their effectiveness for rays at different angles.
  • Another participant asserts that it is not possible to achieve the desired outcome with a prism or mirror due to the principle that the angle of incidence equals the angle of reflection.
  • Some participants propose that combinations of mirrors or prisms might yield a solution, encouraging a shift in perspective on the problem.
  • A suggestion is made to use fiber optics as a potential solution, where light incident on a fiber optic "cap" could be directed out through a "stem."
  • A Fresnel lens is mentioned as a possible fit, but its limitations regarding light coming from a specific point are noted.
  • One participant considers using a concave mirror with a light source positioned at its focal point to achieve parallel reflected rays.
  • Questions arise about how to ensure the incident light consistently passes through the focal point of the mirror.
  • Another participant discusses the idea of using a laser mounted on a rotatable tripod to produce parallel beams, while expressing uncertainty about the effectiveness of this setup.
  • A later reply clarifies that as long as the laser's center of rotation is at the focus of the parabola, the output will remain parallel, but emphasizes the importance of shape and accuracy in construction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of achieving the desired optical effect with various devices. While some propose potential solutions, others challenge these ideas, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific configurations and assumptions about the behavior of light in different optical systems. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or practical challenges involved in achieving the desired outcome.

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I'm trying to find a mirror or a prism which would always reflect any incident light ray parallel to the a fixed axis (drawing attatched), no matter what the angle. I've found that right angle prisms reflect light parallel to the an axis, but I don't think works for rays coming at different angles. I would really appreciate any help =)
 

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I'm not sure I understand what you are asking, but if I do, I'm pretty sure the answer is that there is no such prism/mirror. You're looking for something where the light out is always horizontal (in your sketch) regardless of what angle the light comes in at? Not possible: the angle of incidence always equals the angle of reflection.
 
"Not possible: the angle of incidence always equals the angle of reflection."

In a simple mirror, yes. But some combination of shapes or combination of mirrors and prisms might yield what she's looking for.

Itzela, I can't help you either, but try considering it from the other end. If you stepped into that beam of light emanating from your device what would you see?
 
Perhaps using mirrors or prisms could not achieve what you are looking for, but THERE IS a way to do it if image clarity is of little concern!
The method involves using fiber optics.
If you had enough fiber optic strands, one could construct a shape with them that would be similar to the shape of a mushroom(cap and stem).
From this arrangement, any incident light on the fiber optic "cap" would be directed out the "stem"
With enough fiber optic strands, one could advance the working principle and create a "sphere" as the cap, with the stem coming out of the sphere.
 
A Fresnel lens only works on light coming from one particular point.

Light coming out of fiber optic cables does not come straight out, it bounces around on the interior of the fiber and usually exits at an angle.
 
I just thought about using a concave mirror and adjust the light source to always pass through the focal point of the mirror. That way all the reflected rays would come out parallel to the principal axis. Do you guys think it'll work?
 
How do you always get the incident light to pass through the focal point?
 
Maybe by placing the light source directly on the focal point and varying the incident angle... or by manually simply changing the location of the light source (laser) so it passes through the focal point. Any better ideas?
 
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A point source located at the focus of a parabola will create a beam parallel to the symmetry axis of the parabola.
 
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I was thinking of mounting a laser to a rotatable tripod and placing the tip of the laser on the focal point and rotating the tripod in order to produce parallel beams at different heights. But I'm not sure if the reflected beams will always come out parallel to the symmetry axis of the parabola since they're being shifted from the focal point as the laser rotates. Is there any setup which would allow for the rays to always reflect parallel to the axis?
 
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As long as the center of rotation of the laser is at the focus of the parabola ,then you're in business. Regardless of where the laser is located, if a line along the axis of the laser continues to go through the focus of the parabola then the output will be parallel. If you've got a large angular range, then the tough part is to pick the correct shape and then build it accurately enough to satisfy your needs.
 

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