Discreteness and Determinism in Superstrings?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of Gerard 't Hooft's recent paper on the mapping of cellular automata (CAs) to string theory, particularly focusing on the deterministic nature of these systems and their potential applications in understanding superstring theory. The scope includes theoretical exploration and implications for computational models in physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that a deterministic cellular automaton in 1+1 dimensions can be mapped onto a bosonic quantum field theory, suggesting a foundational link between computation and string theory.
  • Others express skepticism about the efficiency of simulating quantum theories with classical systems, raising concerns about the implications for quantum speedup and computational limits.
  • A participant highlights the potential for 't Hooft's findings to open new avenues for computational approaches to quantum superstring theory, though they caution that this does not necessarily imply a fundamental breakthrough in understanding string theory itself.
  • There is a suggestion that the special nature of 1+1 dimensions may contribute to the feasibility of these mappings, though the implications of this are not universally accepted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of intrigue and skepticism regarding the implications of 't Hooft's work. While some see potential in the computational aspects, others question the feasibility and efficiency of such simulations, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the significance of the findings.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions underlying the mappings and the implications for quantum computation, particularly concerning the efficiency of simulating quantum systems with classical automata.

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Gerard 't Hooft has just uploaded a new paper on arxiv: http://arxiv.org/abs/1207.3612

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Ideas presented in two earlier papers are applied to string theory. It had been found that a deterministic cellular automaton in one space- and one time dimension can be mapped onto a bosonic quantum field theory on a 1+1 dimensional lattice. We now also show that a cellular automaton in 1+1 dimensions that processes only ones and zeros, can be mapped onto a fermionic quantum field theory in a similar way. The natural system to apply all of this to is superstring theory, and we find that all classical states of a classical, deterministic string propagating in a rectangular, D dimensional space-time lattice, with some boolean variables on it, can be mapped onto the elements of a specially chosen basis for a (quantized) D dimensional superstring. This string is moderated ("regularized") by a 1+1 dimensional lattice on its world sheet, which may subsequently be sent to the continuum limit. The space-time lattice in target space is not sent to the continuum, while this does not seem to reduce its physically desirable features, including Lorentz invariance.
 
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1+1 is so special than it even seems a good idea.
 
I'm not sure whether or not I should consider this to be surprising -- (some) 1+1 dim CAs are capable of universal computation, so it's not really a wonder that one could formulate string theory -- or any computable theory -- within CAs: it just corresponds to writing a program that simulates the theory. That it works in some reasonably simple fashion is probably a bit surprising, but one can perhaps always find some special-purpose (i.e. non-universal) CA in which things are simple enough.

Of course, it would be very surprising if this simulation can be done in an efficient manner, seeing as how this would run counter to the idea of the quantum speedup (one could then simulate a quantum computer efficiently with a classical one, so if t'Hooft's CA can do that, you could use it to break every encryption based on the difficulty of factorizing large numbers, which now suddenly isn't so difficult anymore...).
 
Quantumental said:
Gerard 't Hooft has just uploaded a new paper on arxiv: http://arxiv.org/abs/1207.3612

...all classical states of a classical, deterministic string propagating in a rectangular, D dimensional space-time lattice, with some boolean variables on it, can be mapped onto the elements of a specially chosen basis for a (quantized) D dimensional superstring...

... 't Hooft might be onto something here ... and I don't necessarily mean in our fundamental understanding of string theory (although I don't rule this out), but I'm rather referring to the striking door this statement seems to open: the prospect of putting the quantum superstring onto a computer and solving it ... Wow!

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