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The discussion revolves around the grammatical correctness of the term "vs." and its implications in various contexts, including social dynamics among women. Participants explore the nuances of language, cultural interpretations, and personal experiences related to the term.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that "vs." is grammatically incorrect, suggesting it should be abbreviated as "v." or "vs" without a period.
  • Others challenge this view, stating that "vs." is an acceptable abbreviation and referencing sources like Webster's dictionary.
  • A few participants express frustration over discussions lacking context, leading to technicalities overshadowing the original question.
  • There are comments on social dynamics, with some suggesting that women may compete with each other differently than men do.
  • Participants share personal anecdotes about interactions between women, highlighting competitive behaviors in social settings.
  • Humorous remarks about the term "woman vs. woman" being associated with playful or competitive scenarios are made, including references to "cat fights."
  • Some participants note cultural differences in understanding grammatical rules and abbreviations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the grammatical correctness of "vs." and express differing views on social dynamics among women. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying interpretations of grammatical rules and cultural differences in language usage. Some assumptions about social behaviors are not universally applicable.

  • #31
fi said:
Perhaps another cultural division, the dictioary here says differently.
Your 'location' indicator says London. What the hey dictionary are you using? My beloved Oxford shows that the only proper abbreviations is vs.. (The second period is the end of my sentence.)
As for the cat-fight scenario... . One of the first things I learned in working at bars was to stay the hell away from them. It's no big deal to drag a couple of cowboys or rig-pigs apart, but if you try to get between 2 angry women you'll probably lose an eye or something even more important.
 
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  • #32
dduardo said:
Woman vs. Woman = Cat Fight
Totally agree with you. Because we say oil war and we mean people start a war for oil. Now we say 'cat fight' because women usually fight each other because of men! :wink:
 
  • #33
Only when they don't know for sure whom they are fighting for ? :biggrin:
 
  • #34
dduardo said:
Woman vs. Woman = Cat Fight
dont say so becos I am young 19 g, famous too
no fight for men
 
  • #35
Emieno said:
Only when they don't know for sure whom they are fighting for ? :biggrin:
Sure! If it would have a specific name, when they know whom they're fighting for. For exampleif they fight for dduardo :bugeye: , it would be a 'Penguin fight'! :wink:
 
  • #36
Danger said:
Your 'location' indicator says London. What the hey dictionary are you using? My beloved Oxford shows that the only proper abbreviations is vs.. (The second period is the end of my sentence.)

I'm thinking your beloved Oxford must have let you down somehow, the couple I consulted don't have this. The latter has a rather fancy bullet point after every word listed in it, that you may have mistaken for a full stop. Using v. is the more accepted way (over vs) to abbreviate versus, used in the law courts.
It is in fact another difference between British English and American. British English considers words that omit middle letters rather than last letters as technically a contraction, not an abbreviation. I didn't realize that Americans do put full stops after these contractions, like Dr, Mr, St,...
My apologies for being petty and pernickety in an otherwise fascinating thread. :smile:
 
  • #37
This is another one of those 'funner' arguments isn't it? "vs. IS a word!" "No, It's not!"
 
  • #38
fi said:
I'm thinking your beloved Oxford must have let you down somehow, the couple I consulted don't have this. The latter has a rather fancy bullet point after every word listed in it, that you may have mistaken for a full stop. Using v. is the more accepted way (over vs) to abbreviate versus, used in the law courts.
It is in fact another difference between British English and American. British English considers words that omit middle letters rather than last letters as technically a contraction, not an abbreviation. I didn't realize that Americans do put full stops after these contractions, like Dr, Mr, St,...
My apologies for being petty and pernickety in an otherwise fascinating thread. :smile:
Man vs. man or British En vs. American En? Which name is suitable for this thread? :rolleyes:
 
  • #39
Dictionary.com says v. and vs. are both proper abbreviations. (In law cases, however, I've noticed only v. is used--perhaps this is for the sake of consistency.)
 
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  • #40
Knavish said:
Dictionary.com says v. and vs. are both proper abbreviations. (In law cases, however, I've noticed only v. is used--perhaps this is for the sake of consistency.)
Yes but dictionary.com isn't an actual dictionary, it just links to a bunch of other online dictionaries for your ease-of-use. if you look under where it says 'vs.' you're notice the source is "The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition"
 
  • #41
And that's official enough for me..

Here's what Webster's says: "Spell out the word versus unless you're reporting game scores, when you would use vs.; when you're citing legal documents, use the abbreviation v."
 

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