Disk conservation of momentum problem

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The problem involves the conservation of angular momentum in a system of two disks, where one disk drops onto another and they eventually rotate together. The discussion centers around calculating the final angular velocity and analyzing the mechanical energy before and after the interaction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the final angular velocity and express uncertainty regarding the calculation of the ratio of final to initial kinetic energy. There are repeated inquiries about identifying the initial and final kinetic energies and how to express their ratio.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to express the ratio of kinetic energies and suggested substituting the calculated angular velocity into the expressions. There is an indication of progress, but no consensus has been reached on the final calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can provide or seek. The discussion reflects an exploration of assumptions regarding energy conservation and the effects of the interaction between the disks.

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Homework Statement


A disk with momentum of inertia I1 rotates with angular velocity Wi about a vertical friction less axle. A second disk, with moment of inertia I2 and initially not rotating , drops onto the first. Because the surfaces are rough, the two eventually reach the same angular velocity, w. (a) calculate w.(b) show that mechanical energy is lost in this situation and calculate the ration of the final to the initial kinetic energy.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I successfully calculated the angular velocity as wi(I1/I1 +I2) = w but am having trouble on the second part which is to find the ratio of final to kinetic energy. I not really sure how to approach that part.
 
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What is the final kinetic energy and what is the initial one? Take the ratio.
 
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Orodruin said:
What is the final kinetic energy and what is the initial one? Take the ratio.

The final kinetic energy should just be Ke = 1/2(I1+I2)w^2. The initial should be 1/2IWi^2. How do I take the ratio?
 
BrainMan said:
The final kinetic energy should just be Ke = 1/2(I1+I2)w^2. The initial should be 1/2IWi^2. How do I take the ratio?
You write a ratio as two expressions separated by a colon. As with division, you can cancel any common factors. Substitute for w using the result of the first part of the question.
 
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haruspex said:
You write a ratio as two expressions separated by a colon. As with division, you can cancel any common factors. Substitute for w using the result of the first part of the question.
OK thanks! I got it right!
 

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