Distance function from x to the Cantor set

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of the distance function from a point \( x \) to the Cantor set, specifically examining its continuity, constancy, and the nature of its zeros. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications regarding the function's behavior in relation to the Cantor set.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the distance function is continuous and has uncountably many zeros, while questioning whether it is ever constant.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to define the distance function, suggesting that every point in (0, 1) is close to the Cantor set.
  • Another participant challenges this notion, stating that the Cantor set is not dense in (0, 1) and provides a counterexample with the point \( 1/2 \).
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of "never constant," with one participant suggesting it means there are no open intervals where the function remains constant.
  • Another participant reflects on their initial misunderstanding and clarifies their reasoning regarding the function's properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the constancy of the distance function and its implications for the number of zeros. There is no consensus on the definition of the distance function or its properties, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the properties of the distance function depend on the specific characteristics of the Cantor set and the intervals considered. The discussion highlights the need for precise definitions and assumptions regarding continuity and constancy.

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Does the said function satisfy:

(1)continuity
(2)never constant
(3)has uncountably many zeroes

1 and 3 is trivial, but I'm not sure about 2.
 
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I'm not sure how you'd even define the distance, given that every point in (0, 1) has a point in the Cantor set within epsilon for any epsilon > 0.
 
CRGreathouse said:
I'm not sure how you'd even define the distance, given that every point in (0, 1) has a point in the Cantor set within epsilon for any epsilon > 0.

Not true. The Cantor set is not dense in (0, 1). For example the point 1/2 is at least 1/6 away from any point in the Cantor (middle-thirds) set. In fact, dist({1/2}, CantorSet} = 1/6.
 
Ah... clearly I was thinking of something else. That'll teach me to post late at night!
 
Dragonfall said:
Does the said function satisfy:

(1)continuity
(2)never constant
(3)has uncountably many zeroes

1 and 3 is trivial, but I'm not sure about 2.

If x=1/2, then the distance from x to the Cantor middle-third set would be 1/6. If x=0, then the distance would be 0. Hence "not constant".

I find the the use of the word "never" strange since it sounds to be like asserting otherwise the function would be constant on, say, the Tuesdays after a new moon, but not constant all other days.

Possibly what you mean is that there are no open sets on which the function is constant.
 
By "never" I mean that there is no interval on which it is constant.

This is was a problem I thought up. My intuition was that since if a function is "continuous", and "never constant", each time you hit a zero you must "wave" up and down in order to hit a zero again. So this will make the number of zeros "countable". But the distance function from x to the cantor set seems to be "continuous and never constant" but has uncountably many zeros.
 

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