Distance to the corner of a rectangle

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The problem involves determining the distance to the corners of a rectangular garden based on given distances and the requirement that one of the distances is an integer. The context is rooted in geometry, specifically involving the properties of triangles and the Pythagorean theorem.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using the Pythagorean theorem and triangle inequalities to find the unknown distance. There are attempts to establish relationships between the distances and the dimensions of the rectangle. Some participants express confusion over the labeling of distances and how it affects their calculations.

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Several participants have provided insights and suggestions for approaching the problem, including the use of right triangles and the Pythagorean theorem. There is a recognition of differing interpretations of the problem setup, particularly regarding the order of the distances. Some participants have arrived at different values for d, leading to further clarification and exploration of the assumptions involved.

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Participants note that the problem specifies d as an integer, which influences their approaches. There is also mention that no diagram was provided with the question, which may contribute to the confusion regarding the labeling of distances.

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Homework Statement



This question is taken from 2011 Malaysian Mathematical Olympiad.
Mary is standing in a rectangular garden. Her distance to the four corners of the garden are 6 m, 7 m, 9 m and d m, respectively, where d is an integer. Find d.


Homework Equations



Triangle inequality. a + b < c, a + c < b, b + c < a, where a, b, and c are the lengths of the three sides of the triangle.



The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to denote the length of the rectangular garden as a and b, respectively, then from the four triangles formed, I formed some inequality and try to see if the value of d is bounded, but it yields nothing. I have also tried to solve for d by using the concept of area. Also, I tried using the law of cosine and the Pythagorean theorem. But still, I can't find the value for d.

Any other ideas how to approach this problem? Thanks. :)
 
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Pythagorean Theorem is the way to go. Draw two perpendicular lines "through" Mary. You'll have four right triangles, with 6, 7, 9 and d being the hypotenuses. Use the Pythagorean Theorem four times, and through some manipulation, you'll be able to find d.
 
eumyang said:
Pythagorean Theorem is the way to go. Draw two perpendicular lines "through" Mary. You'll have four right triangles, with 6, 7, 9 and d being the hypotenuses. Use the Pythagorean Theorem four times, and through some manipulation, you'll be able to find d.

Thanks for the clue. Now I have a clearer direction. I get d = √94, not an integer though, but still, at least I can get the value of d. :)
 
lkh1986 said:
Thanks for the clue. Now I have a clearer direction. I get d = √94, not an integer though, but still, at least I can get the value of d. :)
I didn't get that answer. Can you double-check?

EDIT: I think I know why our answers differ. It depends on how you label the four distances from Mary to the corners. I took "6, 7, 9 and d, respectively" to mean that you label the line segments clockwise in that fashion. It looks like you labeled them as "6, 9, d and 7," going clockwise, or something similar. Are you looking at a diagram?
 
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v_{1}^{2}+h_{1}^{2}=6^2=36
v_{1}^{2}+h_{2}^{2}=7^2=49
v_{2}^{2}+h_{1}^{2}=9^2=81
v_{2}^{2}+h_{2}^{2}=d^2

d^2=v{2}^{2}+h_{2}^{2}=130-36=94
 
eumyang said:
EDIT: I think I know why our answers differ. It depends on how you label the four distances from Mary to the corners. I took "6, 7, 9 and d, respectively" to mean that you label the line segments clockwise in that fashion. It looks like you labeled them as "6, 9, d and 7," going clockwise, or something similar. Are you looking at a diagram?

Yup. I should have used the "6, 7, 9, d" clockwise. I recount, and get √68. :)

EDIT: No diagram was given for the question.
 
Since the question says d is an integer, I try to use other types of 'combination', and when I tried with '6, 9, 7, d' going clockwise, I get d = 2. Yay! Thanks again, eumyang, for the help :)
 
I had forgotten about the "d is an integer" part when I last posted. :redface: I'm glad you got the answer.
 

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