Trig problem involving a triangle's angles and sides

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The problem involves a triangle ABC with given angles and a side length expressed as 'a'. Participants are tasked with calculating various lengths related to the triangle and an inscribed square.

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  • Participants discuss expressing lengths in terms of 'a' and explore relationships between different segments of the triangle and the inscribed square. Some question how to express certain lengths and whether to use trigonometric functions like cosine.

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There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with some participants offering potential expressions for lengths and others questioning the correctness of their approaches. Guidance has been provided regarding the relationships between the sides and angles, but no consensus has been reached on the final expressions.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to express lengths in terms of a single variable and the geometric relationships within the triangle and square.

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In the triangle ABC, angle A = 30 deg, angle B = 45 deg and since AC = a. The perpendicular from C on AB cuts AB in E. In this task you should calculate exact values.

a) Determine AE, BC and AB expressed by a.

b) Perpendicular from B on AC intersects the extension of AC in D. Find CD expressed by a.

c) A square KLMN is inscribed in the triangle ABC. The corners K and L are on the side AB, the corner M on BC and the corner N on AC. Find the sides in the square expressed by a.

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I can't find a solution to c) Can someone help me?

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a) AE=(a√3)2 BC=(a√2)/2 AB=(a/2)(√3+1)
b) CD=(a/4)(√3-1)
 
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I know of a way to solve this.

1. Express the length AB in terms of a.
2. Call length KN x. Express the lengths AK and LB in terms of x.
 
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1. Isn't that equal to the equation I wrote in the solution over?
2. I'm not sure how I am supposed to express the lengths in terms of x. Should I use cosine?

Cos(30)=AK/AN? But I don't know what AN is equal to. I really appreciate your help by the way :)
 
I think I have an idea, but I'm not sure if this i correct.

tan(30)=KN/AK 1/√3=x/AK AK=√3*x

tan(45)=LM/LB LB=x

AB=AK+KL+LB
(a/2)(√3+1)=√3*x+x+x

I then find out that x=-(a-√3*a)/2=(a(√3-1)/2). Is this right?
 
Kolika28 said:
I think I have an idea, but I'm not sure if this i correct.

tan(30)=KN/AK 1/√3=x/AK AK=√3*x

tan(45)=LM/LB LB=x

AB=AK+KL+LB
(a/2)(√3+1)=√3*x+x+x

I then find out that x=-(a-√3*a)/2=(a(√3-1)/2). Is this right?
Yes. I also get that that the length of each side of the square is ##\ (a/2)(\sqrt 3 - 1) \,.##
 
SammyS said:
Yes. I also get that that the length of each side of the square is ##\ (a/2)(\sqrt 3 - 1) \,.##
Thank you so much for the help :)
 

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