Distilling Ethanol by Refrigerating

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In summary, the conversation discusses the use of ethanol as an alternative fuel for cars and a potential distillation method involving cooling the ethanol below the freezing point of water. The speaker also mentions the historical use of this method in making high alcohol-containing beers. It is confirmed that the method does work, but there is a limit to how pure the ethanol can be obtained before water stops freezing out. It is suggested to then distill the mixture using traditional methods.
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Ethanol seems to be popular for an alternative fuel for cars. If you distilled the ethanol by cooling it and exceeding the saturation point, because it has a lower density than water (.789 grams/cubic cm), the ethanol it would float to the top. You could take the mixture below the freezing point of water and poor the ethanol off the top. My question is, could this work as a distillation method, or am I just wrong?
 
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i believe this is actually how high alcohol-containing beers were first made in germany..they would take two kegs of lager, leave them outside to be frozen, then take the part that didnt freeze (ethanol + other stuff) and combine that with a fresh keg of lager. (nowadays most places use new strains of yeast or just add pure ethanol).
 
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drosser said:
Ethanol seems to be popular for an alternative fuel for cars. If you distilled the ethanol by cooling it and exceeding the saturation point, because it has a lower density than water (.789 grams/cubic cm), the ethanol it would float to the top. You could take the mixture below the freezing point of water and poor the ethanol off the top. My question is, could this work as a distillation method, or am I just wrong?

yes it works, but you are only going to be able to get the ethanol pure to a certain amount before the water will stop freezing out--just take like how a bottle of 80 proof vodka won't freeze if you put it in the freezer.
 
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gravenewworld said:
yes it works, but you are only going to be able to get the ethanol pure to a certain amount before the water will stop freezing out--just take like how a bottle of 80 proof vodka won't freeze if you put it in the freezer.

distill it in the regular fashion after that
 

What is the process of distilling ethanol by refrigerating?

The process of distilling ethanol by refrigerating involves cooling a mixture of ethanol and water to a temperature below the boiling point of ethanol, causing the ethanol to condense and separate from the water. The condensed ethanol is then collected, resulting in a higher concentration of ethanol.

What temperature is needed for distilling ethanol by refrigerating?

The temperature needed for distilling ethanol by refrigerating depends on the concentration of ethanol desired. Generally, a temperature between -7°C to -5°C is recommended for distilling 95-96% pure ethanol.

What equipment is needed for distilling ethanol by refrigerating?

To distill ethanol by refrigerating, you will need a refrigeration unit, a condenser, and a collection vessel. It is also recommended to have a thermometer, a hydrometer, and a water bath for precise temperature control.

Is distilling ethanol by refrigerating safe?

Distilling ethanol by refrigerating is generally considered safe as long as proper precautions are taken, such as using proper equipment and following recommended procedures. However, ethanol is highly flammable and should be handled with caution.

What are the benefits of distilling ethanol by refrigerating?

The main benefit of distilling ethanol by refrigerating is that it allows for a more precise and efficient separation of ethanol from water. It also does not require as much energy compared to other distillation methods, making it a more environmentally friendly option.

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