Distinguishing Between a Magnet & Soft Iron

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The discussion revolves around understanding the behavior of a faulty barometer and distinguishing between a magnet and soft iron bars. The subject area includes principles of fluid mechanics and magnetism.

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  • Participants explore the reasoning behind the behavior of mercury in a faulty barometer and question the implications of air being trapped. They also discuss methods to differentiate between a magnet and soft iron, including a proposed test based on magnetic attraction.

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There is ongoing exploration of the first question regarding the barometer, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the explanations provided. For the second question, a method has been suggested, but it is still under consideration and not universally accepted.

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Participants note the lack of specific details regarding the fault in the barometer, which affects the discussion. The original poster's request for a method to distinguish between the two bars is also highlighted, with some participants questioning the effectiveness of the proposed methods.

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1.If the tube of a faulty barometer is pushed down into the mercury trough, the barometric height will further decrease. Why does this happen?

2. If I am provided with two similar bars, one is a magnet and the other is soft iron. How can I distinguish between them without using any other thing?
 
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cristo said:
Show some work- we cannot help you until you first attempt the problem

I think that when tube is lowered, mercury should rise up. But this doesn't happen.

If I suspend both the rods, both will come to rest in North-South direction so I cannot think of any other way except cuttin the 2 rods into four and then testing them.
 
I'm still working on the first question. Meanwhile the second is easier.

Take one of the bars and place its one end at about the middle of the length of the other bar (so that they look perpendicular to each other). If there's a strong attraction b/w the two bars at this position it means that the bar you're holding in your hand is the magnet. If the attraction is weak then you're holding the iron bar.

Principle: Magnetic field due to a magnet is weak at the center.
 
It is not mentioned in the question what the fault is. Does it imply that air is trapped in place of vacuum?
 
Yes. Thats exactly the case!
 
Well, then here's my explanation (although I'm not entirely sure):

For a capillary tube dipped in mercury, a depression in mercury level is observed inside the tube. Here air is the medium above the surface in the tube as well as the vessel. For the faulty barometer a somewhat similar condition must be happening because there is some air trapped inside. But clearly the barometer tube is no capillary tube and that's why I'm doubtful on this explanation.
 

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