Distribution of named and important mathematical constants

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The discussion revolves around the distribution of named and important mathematical constants, particularly focusing on their numerical values and the observation that many lie within a small range, often between 0 and 5. Participants explore potential reasons for this phenomenon and inquire about the existence of significant constants in larger ranges, such as 100-1000.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that many important constants are small because they arise from fundamental sequences or functions evaluated at small integers, such as ln(2) and sqrt(2).
  • It is suggested that many constants are defined through simple combinations of other constants, limiting their potential to be large.
  • One participant proposes that the rarity of primes may lead to small values in expressions involving them, although this claim is later challenged by noting that the sum of the reciprocals of primes diverges.
  • A philosophical perspective is introduced, arguing that the foundational constants in mathematics are somewhat arbitrary and that historical biases in research may have favored smaller numbers.
  • Another participant mentions that many constants were named in ancient times when computation was more challenging, which may have influenced the selection of low-value constants.
  • There is a distinction made between constants like e and π, which are widely recognized, and others that may not be as easily explained.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the reasons for the prevalence of small constants, with some agreeing on the influence of historical and computational factors, while others raise questions and challenge certain claims. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the deeper reasons for the distribution of these constants.

Contextual Notes

Some claims made during the discussion are based on assumptions that may not be universally accepted, such as the relationship between the distribution of primes and the size of constants. Additionally, there are unresolved mathematical considerations regarding the behavior of sums involving primes.

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I've noticed that the vast majority of named or important mathematical constants, are what you might call small numbers. Their modulus lies very often in the range [0,5]. Here's two examples of tables:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_constant#Table_of_selected_mathematical_constants

http://www.ebyte.it/library/educards/constants/MathConstants.html

If you were to plot a histogram of all those numbers, the distribution would cluster very tightly in the above range. The major exception seems to be numbers which are astronomically large - but it's hard to say how "important" some of those are, since they may only appear in a handful of esoteric proofs. The numbers which are ubiquitous throughout mathematics seems to be of quite ordinary magnitude.

Is there something to this? Anyone know any discussion about this? Anyone know of important mathematical (i.e. independent of units) constants which are in the range of say 100-1000?
 
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Although there may be other, more "fundamental" reasons, I think that one explanation is that a lot of these constants come from a general set of numbers, of which we have selected the first few, or the values of certain functions at small integers. For example, ln(2) and sqrt(2) are interesting simply because they are among the first that come up in the sequences of ln(n) or sqrt(n).

Also, many constants are defined by simple combinations of other constants (your second link has a lot of those, like i^i and e^π). So there isn't much room for the values to get very large, using only addition, multiplication and exponentiation of small constants.

Finally, a lot of these constants are somehow related to the distribution of primes or other "statistical" properties of numbers. These might by definition be small, since primes are rare, and thus expressions such as the sum of the reciprocals of primes can't really be large.

Of course what I said is merely a cynical guess, but maybe there is indeed a deeper reason for some of these constants.
 
I'm not sure how you'd find an explanation for this, but it is an interesting observation.
 
Boorglar said:
Although there may be other, more "fundamental" reasons, I think that one explanation is that a lot of these constants come from a general set of numbers, of which we have selected the first few, or the values of certain functions at small integers. For example, ln(2) and sqrt(2) are interesting simply because they are among the first that come up in the sequences of ln(n) or sqrt(n).

Also, many constants are defined by simple combinations of other constants (your second link has a lot of those, like i^i and e^π). So there isn't much room for the values to get very large, using only addition, multiplication and exponentiation of small constants.

Finally, a lot of these constants are somehow related to the distribution of primes or other "statistical" properties of numbers. These might by definition be small, since primes are rare, and thus expressions such as the sum of the reciprocals of primes can't really be large.

Of course what I said is merely a cynical guess, but maybe there is indeed a deeper reason for some of these constants.

I'm not really talking about things like ln(2) or e^pi/2 - more so numbers like e, \pi, \gamma, \varphi, \delta etc... if you look at the section of the second link called "Classical, named math constants".
 
dipole said:
Is there something to this? Anyone know any discussion about this?
Here's a picture:

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One explanation might be that many of these were named in ancient times. In those times the computation of numeric values was time consuming and so the ones that were evaluated tended to be of low value.
 
Here's a philosophical take on it: Our current scheme of mathematics is a little arbitrary, and there's definitely many nearly-equivalent formulations of mathematics (Which I think Godel's theorem implies). Like how the base we normally used is defined by the number of our fingers, the fundamental constants we use as the foundation of our mathematical system are also low and easily understood.

For example, the arguably most famous constant, pi, is arbitrary; We could write out new sets of formulas for a new value of pi' = 1000*pi and everything would still work fine. (As is in fact the case with tau-lovers, who use tau=2pi instead if I remember correctly.

bhillyard also provides a salient point: There very well was a bias in research towards low numbers until we had the computational tools to handle larger numbers.

I think the fundamental physical constants; plank length, the elementary charge, the speed of light, etc are also relevant to the discussion. The constants in actual physical reality are way off the scale of normal human experience, in direct contrast to mathland. I don't think that's a coincidence.
 
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Boorglar said:
These might by definition be small, since primes are rare, and thus expressions such as the sum of the reciprocals of primes can't really be large.

What I said here is actually false, since the sum of the reciprocals of primes diverges. But the sum of the reciprocals of twin primes does not (converges to Brun's constant).

dipole said:
I'm not really talking about things like ln(2) or e^pi/2 - more so numbers like e,π,γ,φ,δ etc... if you look at the section of the second link called "Classical, named math constants".

I admit these seem harder to explain. I agree with the idea that humans are biased towards small constants, though.
 

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