Divergence/flux of an E field for two spherical regions

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The discussion revolves around the divergence and flux of an electric field defined in two spherical regions, specifically addressing calculations involving the divergence of the electric field and the electric flux through spheres of varying radii.

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  • Participants discuss the divergence of the electric field in two regions, noting that the first region has a non-zero divergence while the second region's divergence is zero. There is an exploration of applying the divergence theorem to calculate electric flux.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the divergence theorem to relate surface integrals to volume integrals. There is an ongoing examination of the implications of the divergence being zero in one region and how that affects the calculations in part c. Multiple interpretations regarding the setup and calculations are being explored.

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Participants question the accuracy of the problem statement, particularly regarding potential typos in part c, and discuss the implications of the divergence being a function of r in different regions.

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Homework Statement


Consider the following electric field:
<br /> \vec{E}=\frac{\rho }{3\varepsilon _{0}}\vec{r}<br /> where r\leq R
and <br /> \vec{E}=\frac{\rho R^3 }{3\varepsilon _{0}r^2}\hat{e_{r}}
where r&gt;R<br />

(a) calculate the divergence of the electric field in the two regions

(b) calculate the electric flux through a sphere of radius r<R and show it is equal to:
\int_{0}^{r}r^2 dr \int_{0}^{\pi }\sin \theta d\theta\int_{0}^{2\pi }d\phi \frac{\rho }{\varepsilon _{0}}

(c) calculate the electric flux through a sphere of radius r>R and show it's equal to:
\int_{0}^{R}r^2 dr \int_{0}^{\pi }\sin \theta d\theta\int_{0}^{2\pi }d\phi \frac{\rho }{\varepsilon _{0}}



Homework Equations



Divergence in spherical coordinates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_in_cylindrical_and_spherical_coordinates

The Attempt at a Solution



So far I have only been able to do part a.

Both regions of the electric field only have E_{r} components which simplifies the dot product.
So the div for reg. 1 is
\frac{1}{r^2}\frac{3\rho r^2}{3\varepsilon _{0}} = \frac{\rho }{\varepsilon _{0}}

and for reg 2 the divergence is 0 since \frac{\partial }{\partial r} \frac{r^2\rho R^3}{3r^2\varepsilon _{0}}=0

The flux of an E in a region would be \triangledown \cdot d\vec{A}. I can see in the volume integrals I am supposed to get that the terms in the integrands are the elements of the general differential surface area element of a spherical region. I am just stuck as to how to proceed and use the divergence theorem to show parts b and c.

Any help and assistance will be greatly appreciated!
 
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Since you've already computed the value of \nabla \cdot \vec{E} everywhere, you can use

$$ \int d\vec{A} \cdot \vec{E} = \int dV (\nabla \cdot \vec{E}) $$

and just use what you calculated in the first part. Just remember that the surface in the integral on the left bounds the volume in the integral on the right.
 
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king vitamin said:
Since you've already computed the value of \nabla \cdot \vec{E} everywhere, you can use

$$ \int d\vec{A} \cdot \vec{E} = \int dV (\nabla \cdot \vec{E}) $$

and just use what you calculated in the first part. Just remember that the surface in the integral on the left bounds the volume in the integral on the right.

Thanks! So it's much simpler than I thought, just a straightforward application of the divergence theorem in the context of gauss' law.
 
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however, could there be a typo in part c? I wrote it exactly as typed from the professor but if the divergence of that 2nd region is zero than the whole volume integral should be zero too?
 
Be careful! The divergence of E is actually a function of r here. As you noted, it takes different values in different regions. Did you notice the integration limits in part c)?
 

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