Dividing with indices resulting in incorrect sign

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The discussion revolves around simplifying expressions involving negative bases and exponents, specifically focusing on the expressions [(-2t)^3] / [(-4t)^2] and (-2/3)^-2. Participants are exploring the implications of negative signs in arithmetic operations and exponent rules.

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  • The original poster attempts to simplify the expressions but encounters issues with sign discrepancies, leading to questions about the rules governing negative numbers and exponents. Some participants reflect on the distinction between expressions like (-4)^2 and -4^2, recognizing this as a source of confusion.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some expressing gratitude for clarifications that highlight fundamental concepts. There is a recognition of the need to revisit basic arithmetic rules, particularly regarding negative numbers and their treatment in exponentiation.

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The original poster is revisiting foundational mathematics as part of pre-course work for an MSc program, indicating a context of refreshing knowledge rather than encountering new material.

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Homework Statement
Simplify [(-2t)^3] / [(-4t)^2] and evaluate (-2/3)^-2
Relevant Equations
1/m^n = m^-n
I am able to simplify/evaluate the above equations correctly, however I end up with an incorrect sign for each answer (i.e positive when it should be negative) and I can't see where the error is. I feel I am clearly missing something but having checked my working including with a calculator for the basic arithmetic (to check the signs) I am none the wiser as to what I am actually getting wrong. Below are my workings:

= [(-2t)^3] / [(-4t)^2]
= [-8t^3] / [-16t^2]
= 1/2t

I am basing this on -8 / -16 = 1/2 and (t^3)/(t^2) = t, although the answer I am provided gives -1/2t which is leading to my confusion. I have also tried beginning with [(-2t)^3)] * [(-4t)^-2] giving [-8t^3] * [-1/16t^-2] however still end up with the same result.

= (-2/3)^-2
= (-2^1 * 3^-1)^-2
= (-2^-2 * 3^2)
= -1/4 * 9
= -9/4

However, again the answer provided is the opposite sign (in this case 9/4).

Looking back, my confusion is to do with a negative divided by a negative vs a negative fraction. So, if -(2/3) = (-2/3) = (-2/-3) [apologies, I can't think of a clearer way of explaining this] then I'd expect:
= -8 / -16
= -(8 / 16) = -8 / 16
= -1/2 which would give me the correct answer for the first question.

In that case I'd expect:
= (-2/3)
= -(2/3) = (-2 / -3)
So:
= (-2^1 * -3^-1)^-2
= -1/4 * -9
= 9/4

Is this then the correct logic I should be using?
 
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Dickie said:
Homework Statement:: Simplify [(-2t)^3] / [(-4t)^2] and evaluate (-2/3)^-2
Relevant Equations:: 1/m^n = m^-n

I am able to simplify/evaluate the above equations correctly, however I end up with an incorrect sign for each answer (i.e positive when it should be negative) and I can't see where the error is. I feel I am clearly missing something but having checked my working including with a calculator for the basic arithmetic (to check the signs) I am none the wiser as to what I am actually getting wrong. Below are my workings:

= [(-2t)^3] / [(-4t)^2]
= [-8t^3] / [-16t^2]
= 1/2t

I am basing this on -8 / -16 = 1/2 and (t^3)/(t^2) = t, although the answer I am provided gives -1/2t which is leading to my confusion. I have also tried beginning with [(-2t)^3)] * [(-4t)^-2] giving [-8t^3] * [-1/16t^-2] however still end up with the same result.

= (-2/3)^-2
= (-2^1 * 3^-1)^-2
= (-2^-2 * 3^2)
= -1/4 * 9
= -9/4
What is (−4)2 ?

What is (−2)2 ?
 
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So, in answering your question I've realized the following:
(-4)^2 = 16
-4^2 = -16

This seems to be the source of my confusion for the first question, so thank you. This also seems to apply for the second question where I think I should have used:

(-2)^-2 = 1/4

Thanks again - I thought it would be something simple I'd missed!
 
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Dickie said:
So, in answering your question I've realized the following:
(-4)^2 = 16
-4^2 = -16

This seems to be the source of my confusion for the first question, so thank you. This also seems to apply for the second question ...
Yes.
Remember the fundamentals.

(−2t)^2 is shorthand for (−2t)×(−2t) , which is 4×t^2
 
Thanks again, I always find it's the basics which trip me up.

I'm returning to study in my 30s for an MSc and have been given these questions as part of some pre-course work to do to refresh my maths - despite having done well at maths in the past, it turns out there are more than a few gaps in my knowledge now!
 

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