Divisibility by 11 for all palindromes with an even number of digits

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The discussion revolves around proving the divisibility of palindromic integers with an even number of digits, specifically in base 10 and generalizing to base k. Participants explore the properties of palindromic numbers and their relationship to divisibility rules.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss representing palindromic integers mathematically and attempt to prove their divisibility by 11 in base 10. There are suggestions to start with specific examples and generalize from them. Some participants explore inductive reasoning and express concerns about extending the proof to base k.

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Several approaches have been proposed, including specific examples and inductive proofs. Some participants have made progress in base 10, while others express uncertainty about how to apply similar reasoning to base k. Guidance has been offered regarding expressing palindromic numbers in terms of their bases and considering modular arithmetic.

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Participants note the challenge of proving divisibility for palindromic numbers in different bases and the need to consider the properties of numbers with an even number of digits. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in transitioning from base 10 to a general base k.

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Homework Statement



Prove that every palindromic integer N in base 10 with an even number of digits is divisible by 11.

Then prove that every palindromic integer in base k with an even number of digits is divisible by k+1.


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palindromic means the number reads the same forwards and backwards


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried a general representation of a palindromic integer with even digits of form

D1*10^(2n-1) + D2*10^(2n-2) + ... +Dn * 10^n + Dn * 10^(n-1) +...+ D2*10^1 +D1*10^0

which makes the number N equal to

N= D1[10^(2n-1) + 10^0] + D2 [10^(2n-2) + 10^1] +...+Dn[10^n + 10^(n-1)].

But I can't figure out how to prove divisibility by 11. Thanks for any help!
 
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how about starting with a low form & seeing if you can generalise from there...

so start with:
10^3 a_0 + 10^2 a_1 + 10^1 a_1 + a_0 = (10^3+1)a_0 + (10^2+10)a_1 <br /> = (10^3+1)a_0 + 10 (11)a_1

so for this case it remains to show a_0(10^3+1) is divisible by 11...
 
Okay, thanks. I think I figured it out in base 10 by proving that you can factor out
(10^p +1) from each term, where p is some odd power, and then I proved by induction that

10^(2n-1) +1 is divisible by 11.

Any ideas on the general base n case? I can see that it works, just by using examples:

some palindrome in base 16 with 6 digits is divisible by 17:
10*16^5 + 12*16^4 + 3*16^3 + 3*16^2+12*16^1 + 10*16^0 = 11285450 = 17 * 663850.

but I have never done a proof like this for base n. Thanks,
 
Since the number has an even number of digits, let n be half the digits and prove by induction on n.

If n= 1, the number is of the form aa= a(11).

Suppose any palindromic number with 2k digits is divisible by 11. let X be a palindromic number with 2k+ 2 digits. Let a be the leading digit (and so the ones digit). We can write X= a102k-1+ M + a where M is now a palindromic number with k digits.
X= a(102k-1+ 1)+ M. M is divisible by 11 by the inductive hypothesis and 102k-1+ 1 is divisible by 11 because, for m odd, xm+ 1= (x+1)(xm-1- xm-2+ ... + x- 1.
 
thank you. and for a base k palindromic number, can I just substitute k for 10?
 
ripcity4545 said:
thank you. and for a base k palindromic number, can I just substitute k for 10?

nope, that doesn't work. I am definitely stuck on proving that a base k palindromic number with even digits is divisible by k+1.
 
Write down what the palindromic number means in base k. Express it modulo k+1. (Note that k is simply expressed modulo k+1.) You should finish up with 0 modulo k+1 if the number is to be divisible by k+1. (This includes 11 for base 10 as a special case of course.)

(If that isn't too clear just say so, and I'll expand it a bit.)
 
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