Do Graduate Schools Require Knowledge of a Foreign Language for Admission?

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The discussion centers on whether graduate schools in physics and mathematics require knowledge of a foreign language for admission. Participants explore the implications of language proficiency on the admissions process and its relevance in different contexts, including citizenship and financial considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that knowledge of a foreign language is not a requirement for graduate school admission, particularly in the sciences in the US, where English suffices.
  • Others suggest that while not required, knowing a foreign language could be beneficial.
  • One participant questions whether translation of papers is necessary, leading to a clarification that most relevant papers are available in English or have been translated.
  • Another participant mentions that some math programs may have minimal foreign language requirements, often involving simple translation tasks.
  • A historical perspective is provided by a participant who recalls a past language requirement in a physics program, which has since been removed.
  • A question is raised about the possibility of teaching in another language as a requirement for some Ph.D. programs, but this remains unverified.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of foreign language knowledge for graduate school admission, with multiple competing views presented regarding its relevance and requirements across different programs and institutions.

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Limitations include variations in requirements by institution and program, as well as differing experiences based on geographical location. The discussion reflects a range of historical and current practices without resolving the specifics of each program's requirements.

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Are all prestige and good Physics/Math programs (graduate school) require you to know a foreign language? Another question is about admission in grad school.

If it comes down to two people, like with the exact same grades and test scores, same merit of letters of recommendations, etc.., but the only thing that marks the difference between these two applicants is

1. a foreign language(s)
2. citizenship
3. Finance.

Thank you!
 
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You are not required to know a foreign language for grad school, but it certainly doesn't hurt.
 
VeeEight said:
You are not required to know a foreign language for grad school, but it certainly doesn't hurt.

Don't they require you to translate papers?
 
I have never had to do that nor encountered any peers doing this. I live in Canada though, so this may be different in other countries.
 
Graduate programs in the sciences in the US do not require knowing another language. Just English. No, you don't have to translate papers. Almost all the papers you need are already in English, or have been translated before. I have only once thought a paper might come in useful for my research and then found out it was in Italian and hadn't been translated. And it's not like I would have learned Italian for my research plan anyway.

Also, grad school will pay YOU to attend in the US - you don't have to pay for it. Do not accept offers that don't come with a tuition waiver and an assistantship in return for you teaching and/or doing research for them. So neither knowing a foreign language or being rich is going to help you get into science/math graduate programs - citizenship usually isn't too much of an issue as long as you can get a visa.
 
A lot of math programs do have 'foreign language requirements', but most are a joke-- often they give you a short math paper and a dictionary and ask you to translate it in a few hours.
 
When I was a grad student in physics at Michigan about thirty years ago, there was a language requirement which I satisfied by having already taken some German courses beyond the introductory level and studied in Germany for a semester as an undergraduate. Some people I knew met the requirement by demonstrating that they could read (at least extract information from) a paper written in either French, German or Russian.

That requirement doesn't exist any more, according to the http://www.lsa.umich.edu/physics/graduate/requ .
 
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I don't remember where I heard it, but I heard that some Ph.D programs require you to teach in another language, is that true?
 

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