Do more energetic orbitals have wider bands in crystals?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the energy of orbitals and the width of energy bands in crystals, particularly in the context of the Tight-binding method. Participants explore how the characteristics of different orbitals, such as 3d orbitals in transition metals, influence the density of states and the behavior of superconductors.

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  • One participant proposes that wider energy bands are associated with more energetic orbitals due to their greater delocalization and significant overlap with neighboring atoms.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial claim regarding the relationship between energetic orbitals and band width.
  • A subsequent participant questions the reasoning that transition metals, which have narrow bands, should be associated with wide bands due to their d-orbitals, suggesting a potential contradiction in the understanding of density of states at the Fermi level.
  • Another participant provides a classification of orbital sizes, indicating that s, p, d, and f orbitals decrease in size, with 3d orbitals being the smallest and associated with the narrowest bands.
  • A later reply discusses the radial wavefunctions of orbitals, explaining how the number of nodes affects the localization and extension of the wavefunctions, thereby influencing the band width.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between orbital energy, band width, and density of states, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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Participants reference the Tight-binding method and the characteristics of wavefunctions, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the implications of orbital size and energy on band width and density of states.

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Let's consider we have a crystal and we search the energy relation of the bands as function of the reciprocal lattice vectors. We would do that theoretical by applying the Tight-binding method. Let's consider that each band is associated with some kind of orbital ( for instance, 3d orbitals). Is it true that we should expect that the bands which are wider in energy are associated with the most energetic orbitals since those are more delocalized in space and the overlapping with the same orbitals of the neighbour atoms are more significant?

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Yes, that is correct.
 
Thank you for your reply!
Continuing the discussion of the OP...
I, then, heard that when searching for superconductors with higher critical temperatures, people would like to find materials with high density of states at Fermi level, and for that the best candidates would be materials composed of transition metals for their narrow bands. My question is the following. Since the bands of transition metal come from d-orbitals I would say according to OP that they will be wide instead of narrow which would imply low density of states. What's wrong with my reasoning?
 
When considering valence orbitals, usually the order of the size of the orbitals are, from largest to smallest, s p d f. So for something like copper, the valence orbitals are 4s4p3d and the 3d will be the smallest orbitals and have the narrowest bands.
 
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Can you also give me some justification or idea that explains this fact?
 
The radial part of the wavefunction for 4s has 3 nodes, so that it is orthogonal to 1s,2s,3s wavefunctions. These nodes are always near the origin, which will mean that the majority of its density is outside these nodes and located farther away. Mathematically, you see this is because there is a polynomial with more terms in the 4s wavefunction than the 3s, 2s, 1s. For 4p, it only has to be orthogonal to 2p and 3p, so it only has two nodes. So it is not as extended. 3d does not have any nodes so it is more localized. You can see the differences if you plot the radial wavefunctions.
 

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