Do Orthogonal Polynomials have always real zeros ?

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The discussion revolves around whether orthogonal polynomials always have real zeros. Participants explore the properties of these polynomials, particularly in relation to self-adjoint operators and their eigenfunctions, while considering specific examples like Legendre and Chebyshev polynomials.

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  • One participant questions if orthogonal polynomials, defined as eigenfunctions of a self-adjoint operator with a real spectrum, always have real zeros.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the term "orthogonal polynomials," suggesting that the definition may require further specification.
  • A participant clarifies that orthogonal polynomials are defined through a weight function and an integral condition, providing examples of polynomials that are believed to have real roots.
  • Links to external resources are provided to support claims regarding the existence of real roots in orthogonal polynomials.
  • One participant asserts that the term "orthogonal polynomial" is misleading, emphasizing that orthogonal sets of polynomials can be defined for any function over an interval.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of orthogonal polynomials or whether they always have real zeros. There are competing views regarding the terminology and the implications of the properties of these polynomials.

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There is ambiguity in the definition of "orthogonal polynomials," which may depend on the context and specific properties being discussed. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity regarding the conditions under which these polynomials are considered.

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Do Orthogonal Polynomials have always real zeros ??

the idea is , do orthogonal polynomials [tex]p_{n} (x)[/tex] have always REAl zeros ?

for example n=2 there is a second order polynomial with 2 real zeros

if we consider that there is a self-adjoint operator L so [tex]L[p_{n} (x)]= \mu _{n} p_{n} (x)[/tex] if the orthogonal POLYNOMIALS are eigenfunctions of an operator with a real spectrum are ALL the zeros real ? , and if all the zeros are REAL can they be related to the spectrum of L ??
 
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I'm a bit confused. What do you mean by "orthogonal polynomials"? I know what "orthogonal sets of polynomials" are but there are many different such sets. I can't think of any polynomials that would qualify as simply "orthogonal polynomials" without further requirements.
 


i meant

[tex]p_{n} (x)[/tex] is a Polynomial.

let be 'n' and 'm' integers then , there is a weight function so

[tex]\int_{a}^{b} dx w(x) p_{n}(x).p_{m}(x)= \delta _{m}^{n}[/tex]

this polynomial [tex]p_{n} (x)[/tex] or set of polinomial dependent on the index 'n' are eigenfunctions of a certain operator L with Real spectrum

for example , Legendre, Chebyshev, Polynomials seem to have real roots only and are used to compute quadrature formulae

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_quadrature
 


Many ortho polynomial sets have p0(x)=1.
 


zetafunction said:
i meant

[tex]p_{n} (x)[/tex] is a Polynomial.

let be 'n' and 'm' integers then , there is a weight function so

[tex]\int_{a}^{b} dx w(x) p_{n}(x).p_{m}(x)= \delta _{m}^{n}[/tex]

this polynomial [tex]p_{n} (x)[/tex] or set of polinomial dependent on the index 'n' are eigenfunctions of a certain operator L with Real spectrum

for example , Legendre, Chebyshev, Polynomials seem to have real roots only and are used to compute quadrature formulae

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_quadrature
That's what I thought you meant. "Orthogonal polynomials" are "orthogonal sets of polynomials". Your question doesn't make sense because there is no such thing as an "orthogonal polynomial". Given any function f(x) over some interval, there exists a set of functions, including f(x), that is "orthogonal".
 

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