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Do Over Achievers Ever Get You Down?

  1. Nov 27, 2005 #1
    Does this ever happen to any of you, it seems to affect me often. I am restarting school again and am about two years into it this time. Being 28 and seeing all the things people have achieved even before my age, makes it seem like school is a waste of time.:confused:

    Eventually I would like my get a PhD in Physics. In high school I was just an average student doing nothing exceptional like most people. Then I see I am competing with people that were in AP math and physics classes their whole high school career while I just maintained passing grades. Now that I am in college I get mostly A’s and B’s in the classes I am taking. Then there are the high school students just entering college that are already taking higher classes than I am having met all their prerequisites beforehand while in high school.

    Anyway, this is just my Sunday night rant that I have been meaning to ask someone for a while now. Do any of you feel like you are either to old or too under qualified to be going to some type of graduate degree? :grumpy:
     
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    I can't say i feel that way. I moved from Biology to Computer Science so i got a little behind but i enjoy my major so much i'm not the least concerned where others are or what they're doing.
     
  4. Nov 28, 2005 #3
    not much u can do, about dont let it get to u ......focus on urself.
     
  5. Nov 28, 2005 #4
    I try not and I am not really thinking of it as competing with other students. Just maybe if I can do it being older and huge lack of "overachieverness".:tongue2:

    Maybe I need a better way to explain it.:confused:
     
  6. Nov 28, 2005 #5

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  7. Nov 29, 2005 #6
    I just turned 27 and I'm about to graduate (finally) with my undergrad in physics. There are times that I feel old (like when I'm talking about my husband to kids who are only concerned with where they're going to party over the weekend...) but I also know that I have advantages. They may be 7 years younger, but I've spent 4 years in Investment Banking. My education means so much more to me, because I'm sacrificing for it. For me, it's not about the end goal, but about the process of learning. And when doors open to me, I'm able to identify them and act upon them in ways that someone younger may not. I think we have a distinct advantage due to our age.
     
  8. Nov 30, 2005 #7

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    just think that you probably had more fun than they did in high school. i see a lot of those kids in my classes who took all the ap tests and all that jazz. honestly, they seem to lack personality and i wonder what they'll really have to look back on when they're older. don't worry about how they're doing, just worry about yourself.
     
  9. Nov 30, 2005 #8

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    I'm sure they had lots of fun too.

    It's not wise to look at "over" achievers and make comments about how they probably don't/didn't have fun or what not just to make yourself feel better.
     
  10. Nov 30, 2005 #9
    i am one of those people who, as u mentioned, are taking ap calc 1 and 2, college physics, college chem 1, ap stats, and so on while still in high school.

    although i know i am a bit ahead of the game, i notice a lot of other kids who are futher ahead than me. you will always enounter someone who is better than you are and you are, none the less, better than someone else.

    on the contrary, if you wish to accomplish more, work harder than you think you ever could.

    i am in classes with kids who were labled gifted at an eary age and i am compeating with them to get into good colleges and for a passing grade on ap exams. i am not gifited, and i don't pretend to be. i just out-work some of them. i use my love of physics for my motivation.

    the will far outlasts talent. with hard work, one has the drive to aquire talent and thus surpass it.
     
  11. Nov 30, 2005 #10
    i am one of those people who, as u mentioned, are taking ap calc 1 and 2, college physics, college chem 1, ap stats, and so on while still in high school.

    although i know i am a bit ahead of the game, i notice a lot of other kids who are futher ahead than me. you will always enounter someone who is better than you are and you are, none the less, better than someone else.

    on the contrary, if you wish to accomplish more, work harder than you think you ever could.

    i am in classes with kids who were labled gifted at an eary age and i am compeating with them to get into good colleges and for a passing grade on ap exams. i am not gifited, and i don't pretend to be. i just out-work some of them. i use my love of physics for my motivation.

    the will far outlasts talent. with hard work, one has the drive to aquire talent and thus surpass it.
     
  12. Nov 30, 2005 #11
    Inspiring words.
     
  13. Nov 30, 2005 #12
    always think of it this way. you dont want to be five years down the road from today and thinking: "man i could be xyz by now" I am 36 with a degree in history and have started taking calculus I and Physics (nonmajors) with the intent of pursuing a bachelors in physics by the age of 38. I am liking it a lot. By the time i am 40 I hope to be doing some kind of work in physics. Enjoy yourself. Watch the second to last season of Dawson's Creek and seize the day you crazy diamond. I'll tell you what depresses me. Murray Gell-Mann Taught himself calculus at seven. Went to Yale at 15 and received his PhD from MIT at 20
     
  14. Dec 1, 2005 #13
    Thanks for all the replies.

    I guess age isn't too bad, since there seems to be a few of you here. I guess I was just getting discouraged by all the other students in my classes that are all youngsters and some of the reading I have been doing here and other places about younger people with 2x the education I have, when they are just leaving high school.

    I guess like Rasine says, there are always people that will be ahead of you, so you might as well not let it bother you and just study harder.
     
  15. Dec 4, 2005 #14
    Imagination is more important than knowledge
     
  16. Dec 4, 2005 #15
    knowledge is the raw material of imagination. and the more you know about the world around you the deeper and more widely ranged your imagination.
     
  17. Dec 16, 2005 #16
    if you love physics nothing else should matter, that's the end of the story, buck stops right there.
     
  18. Dec 17, 2005 #17
    This is a very interesting thread. I am 26, and returning to school for Physics, after a pretty sucessfull career as a photographer. The thing is, I have seen it from both sides. I was a photography whizz kid. I won a major photography competition in High School, and I was always the top student in any/all photography classes. Now, I have been doing it for years, and I am whitnessing some of my former classmates passing me up. I never thought these guys would amount to squat because they seemed to lack any understanding. But, they work hard, and it seems to be paying off. Truth is, I am pretty lazy when it comes to photography. If I am going to work hard, I wanted to do something that I really loved and respected, like Physics. So now, I am way behind in the game, but I am working hard, and I have never been happier. This might be the time to interject a cheesey line "and isn't that what life is all about," but, I have a wife, and I want to have kids, so I cant be fooling around pursuing my every whim and fancy --especially with the cost of education. Suffice it to say, you need to work hard, even if you are a talent.
     
  19. Dec 18, 2005 #18

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    I am 63 and have trouble feeling sorry for 27 year olds who think they are past their prime. get a grip, kid.
     
  20. Dec 18, 2005 #19

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    Not an easier way to say it. :approve:
     
  21. Dec 18, 2005 #20
    Its quite annoying when you seem to work your butt off to get to the same place as someone else when they seem to do it so easily...

    but it feels good because u know u put in 100% effort and you deserve 100% of the good stuff.
    I have a friend whose like always saying to me urr soo good at everything, its annoying because she doesnt work that hard and complains that shes not doing so well.(just lazy/not motivated)
     
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