Do Politics Corrupt? - Is It Inherently Corrupting?

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The discussion centers around the question of whether politics inherently corrupts individuals, exploring various perspectives on the nature of corruption in political systems at different levels, including local and federal. Participants share personal beliefs, experiences, and theories related to corruption in politics.

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  • Some participants believe that politics inherently corrupts individuals, regardless of their initial intentions.
  • Others argue that the definition of corruption and the level of politics (local vs. federal) are crucial to understanding the issue.
  • One participant suggests that the perception of corruption may be influenced by personal biases against politicians with differing opinions.
  • Several participants emphasize the role of money and power in corruption, advocating for reforms such as eliminating campaign contributions and selecting candidates based on qualifications.
  • There is a viewpoint that not all politicians are corrupt, with some participants expressing respect for specific individuals despite disagreements on policies.
  • One participant mentions that the political environment may deter decent individuals from seeking office, implying that the system itself can be unwelcoming.
  • Another participant posits that while government itself may not corrupt, the associated power and money can lead to corruption, suggesting a varying degree of susceptibility based on the level of government.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the nature of corruption in politics, with no clear consensus reached. Some believe in inherent corruption, while others argue against it, leading to multiple competing views on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal experiences and societal observations, indicating that their views may depend on specific contexts and definitions of corruption. The discussion includes varying assumptions about the motivations and behaviors of politicians.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring political ethics, the dynamics of power in governance, and the societal perceptions of corruption in politics.

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Do you think politics inherently corrupts? I think so. Even if you start out with good intentions, it seems like you'd be corrupted to an extent. I don't know why, but I always feel like politians are lying to me. Anyone else feel the same way? Nah, it's probably just me.
 
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I suppose it depends on what you mean by corrupts as well as what level of politics you are referring (i.e., local level vs. federal level).
 
I don't think the level matters
ever see a poor elected offical??
at any level?

the abuse of power and chance of corruption is all most 100%
my dad said , if they are in office , they are stealing
so just vote for the other guy, they are not stealing YET
and it will take a little time for them to learn how to steal

term limits are a good idea
one term is a better idea
REELECT NOBODY
 
Corrupt politicians tend to be people one does not agree with so I believe it is the citizen that imagines the idea of "corruption" for most politicians (and when I say most, I mean including all levels of government). It's only human to react to someone doing something you don't like by over-reacting or feeling like that person must be evil.

Think of as many politicians as you can that you think are corrupt and then ask yourself whether you are on the same page as them as far as opinions go and I bet there's a pattern.
 
Foremost money, and then power corrupts. It takes a lot of money to become elected, and once elected then there is power. We should eliminate campaign contributions, candidates should be selected based on qualifications, and then each candidate should be given equal time to debate per public announcement airtime.
 
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Foremost money, and then power corrupts. It takes a lot of money to become elected, and once elected then there is power. We should eliminate campaign contributions, candidates should be selected based on qualifications, and then each candidate should be given equal time to debate per public announcement airtime.
Well, voters should be intelligent and well-informed on all issues related to business of government. :rolleyes:

I don't believe every politician is corrupt. There are many I respect, like Warren Rudman and John Danforth, although I don't necessarily agree with their positions 100%.

Locally, we've had some doozies with regard to corruption, including suicide and homicide.

And then there is http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?cycle=2006&cid=N00005892

and - http://www.pcactionfund.org/delayspocket/
 
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Entropy said:
Do you think politics inherently corrupts?

I see no reason to believe as much, but I suspect attribution theory has something to say about that belief's persistence.
 
Further thought - the political arena is attractive to corrupt and otherwise arrogant individuals.

I know many decent people who should be in political office, but they do not wish to deal with the aggressive or hostile political environment.

Hey I should run for office. :biggrin:
 
Well, voters should be intelligent and well-informed on all issues related to business of government.

I think we'll lose corruption before people start becoming intelligent. :wink:

One of my favorite quotes is "Too bad all the people that should be running the world are teaching." That's so true.
 
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i think we have lost sight of the original question. does government corrupt? in principle, no it doesnt. but the power and money involved in politics does corrupt. and i think the level of corruption is proportionate to the level of government(higherl levels are more susceptible to corruption than say, the local level.)but i do not believe it corrupts everyone. i think it weakens the ideals and morals of some, and it corrupts a little fewer than that.
 

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