Do these Resistance torque values for my setup make sense?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the separation distance of permanent neodymium magnets and the resistance torque experienced by a conductive disc spinning between them. Participants explore the theoretical modeling of this relationship using principles of electromagnetism and rotational mechanics, as well as the experimental validation of the model.

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  • One participant presents a research question regarding how the separation distance of magnets affects resistance torque, providing experimental data from a small setup.
  • Another participant inquires about existing information on eddy current braking and requests links to technical readings on the subject.
  • A participant suggests considering the general rule-of-thumb regarding how magnetic field strength varies with distance and questions whether resistance torque follows a similar trend.
  • There is an acknowledgment that experimental results may not perfectly align with theoretical predictions, indicating a common understanding of the variability in experimental outcomes.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between separation distance and resistance torque, and multiple viewpoints regarding the theoretical and experimental aspects remain present.

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Participants have not provided detailed assumptions or definitions regarding the parameters involved in the experiments, and there may be unresolved mathematical steps in the analysis of the data presented.

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TL;DR Summary: research question: “How does the Separation distance of permanent neodymium magnets (m) affect the Resistance torque (Nm) of a conductive disc spinning in between them?”
The objective is to predict the relationship between Resistance torque that tends to slow down the disk and the Separation distance of magnets, using laws of electromagnetism and rotational mechanics to create a theoretical model and testing the model’s validity through experimentation.

I used a small DC motor with small equidistant Neodymium magnets placed on opposite sides to make a mini magnetic braking system and adjusted their separation distance to calculate the resulting resitance torque due to eddy currents. Do these results make sense? Note: My setup was quite small, with the disc being 6 cm in diameter.
Separation distance
(l0.0001m)
Mean Period
(Tavg)
Absolute uncertainty
in T
Tavg/s
Fractional uncertainty in T
(Tavg/Tavg)
Resistance Torque
(τ/Nm)
Absolute uncertainty in τ
(τ/Nm)
0.00940.03430.00110.03060.042200.0071
0.01040.17320.00210.01210.032000.0042
0.01140.13770.00220.01600.028840.0061
0.01240.09660.00440.04550.022230.0041
0.01340.08230.00190.02310.018210.0018
0.01440.06820.00150.02130.014860.0027
0.01540.05830.00420.07120.011260.0022
0.01640.05500.00130.02270.009680.0016
0.01740.04670.00110.02250.008740.0017
 
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extendedfaker said:
The objective is to predict the relationship between Resistance torque that tends to slow down the disk and the Separation distance of magnets, using laws of electromagnetism and rotational mechanics to create a theoretical model and testing the model’s validity through experimentation.
What info have you found so far for Eddy Current Braking? Please post links to your technical reading about this subject. Thanks.

Also, using my Mentor superpowers, I'm pretty sure this "research" is for your schoolwork, so I will move your thread to the schoolwork forums for you now.
 
Do you know the general rule-of-thumb of how the magnetic field strength varies with distance? (If not, try a Google search.)

Does the Resistance Torque follow this same trend?

Don't expect the numbers to perfectly match the theory, experiments rarely do!

Cheers,
Tom
 
berkeman said:
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What info have you found so far for Eddy Current Braking? Please post links to your technical reading about this subject. Thanks.

Also, using my Mentor superpowers, I'm pretty sure this "research" is for your schoolwork, so I will move your thread to the schoolwork forums for you now.
https://www.mdpi.com/2227-7080/12/4/50
 
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