Do TOE candidates predict SM parameters?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between theories of everything (TOE) such as Kaluza-Klein theory and string theory, and their ability to predict Standard Model (SM) parameters. Kaluza-Klein theory has been criticized for inaccurately predicting the electron mass and suggesting a massless scalar particle, leading to its decline in mainstream physics. In contrast, Connes' non-commutative geometry (NCG) approach has shown promise in reproducing SM parameters and making predictions about particle masses, while also addressing the "big desert" hypothesis. The conversation highlights the complexity of quantum corrections and the ongoing need for diverse theoretical approaches to fully understand the SM.

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  • Understanding of Standard Model (SM) parameters
  • Familiarity with Kaluza-Klein theory and its limitations
  • Knowledge of string theory and its implications for quantum gravity
  • Basic concepts of non-commutative geometry (NCG) and spectral geometry
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  • Explore the implications of Kaluza-Klein theory on particle physics
  • Research Connes' non-commutative geometry and its predictions for SM parameters
  • Investigate the role of quantum corrections in string theory models
  • Study the "big desert" hypothesis and its relevance to theories of everything
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The discussion is beneficial for theoretical physicists, cosmologists, and researchers interested in the unification of fundamental forces, as well as those exploring advanced concepts in quantum field theory and geometry.

  • #31
My bad, octonions...
 
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  • #32
no, not even octonions ;-)

octonions are a divison algebra w/o zero divisors; but they are not associative
 
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  • #33
Another try. Sedenions :)
 
  • #34
yes, they have zero divisors and are not a division algebra!
 

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