Do we have the power to control our destiny?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of destiny and fate, exploring whether events are predetermined and the implications of such beliefs. It examines definitions, philosophical implications, and examples related to predetermination, particularly in the context of human choice and mathematical outcomes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines destiny as a predetermined course of events and fate as the force that predetermines those events, proposing three categories: strong predetermination, weak predetermination, and no predetermination.
  • Another participant argues against the notion that solving a mathematical equation like "x+5=2x" is predetermined, suggesting that a person's lack of algebra skills could lead to incorrect outcomes.
  • Some participants propose that weak predeterminism applies to events resistant to small changes, citing examples like the life of a sun or the fate of the universe, while acknowledging that discrepancies can still occur.
  • There is a suggestion that if predeterminism exists, it might be more likely that everything is completely predetermined rather than partially.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of predetermination, with some supporting the idea of weak predetermination and others challenging the concept by emphasizing human agency and the potential for error in decision-making.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about human choice, the nature of mathematical certainty, and the implications of predetermination that remain unresolved.

which category are we in?


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  • #31
olde drunk said:
I was using logical in as a common term, not within the academic context.

Secondly, you must admit that you are energy. Above and beyond the physical there is a life force (energy). within science, energy cannot be destroyed; ergo, you will continue to exist. as a spiritual energy force you will continue to roam the universe or choose to reincarnate.

most important, you, not your body, will continue to exist. the body will obey this law and decompose; you will not. IMHO!

love&peace,
olde drunk
Hey, is it possible that energy has always been? Even before the Big Bang? And, say that the Big Bang was merely a matter of converting Energy into Matter?
 
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  • #32
Iacchus32:

we have scientically shown that time is a man made measure. without time, there is an eternity of some sort. we have also proven the concept of infinity. ergo, we are eternally infinite.

i know that this is overly simplistic and will annoy those that need an esoteric explanation. but, why avoid the obvious? K.I.S.S. (lol)!

love&peace,
olde drunk
 

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