Do Women's Actions Really Cause Earthquakes?

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The discussion centers around the controversial claim that women's actions, specifically related to promiscuity, could cause earthquakes, as suggested by a cleric. Participants explore the implications of this statement, its connection to women's rights, and broader societal attitudes towards religion and morality. The conversation touches on themes of gender equality, religious interpretations, and the absurdity of attributing natural disasters to human behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disbelief and humor regarding the cleric's claim, questioning its seriousness and logic.
  • Others draw parallels between this claim and similar statements made by religious figures in different contexts, suggesting a pattern of irrationality in attributing disasters to moral failings.
  • A few participants highlight the ethical implications of blaming women for natural disasters, emphasizing the need for gender equality and the recognition of women's rights.
  • Some argue that the title of the discussion is unethical and should be condemned, while others defend it as a critique of the cleric's statement rather than an attack on Islam.
  • There are discussions about the role of religion in interpreting disasters as punishments for moral violations, with references to various religious texts and practices.
  • Participants mention the broader context of women's rights in different societies, contrasting secular and fundamentalist views on gender equality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of the cleric's statement, the ethical implications of the discussion title, and the broader societal issues related to women's rights and religious beliefs.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect personal opinions and interpretations of religious texts, which may depend on individual beliefs and cultural contexts. The discussion includes references to specific societal issues faced by women, which are not universally applicable.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the intersections of gender, religion, and societal norms, as well as individuals examining the role of humor and critique in addressing controversial claims.

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I don't know what to say about this other than to wonder what this guy was thinking. :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100419/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_earthquakes_promiscuity"

I love the reaction though. http://www.news.com.au/technology/boobquake-determined-to-prove-cleric-wrong/story-e6frfro0-1225856787031"
 
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I just read the title and go crazy laughing, I thought this's a joke.

Wait a minute… did he mean that literally?
 
Ooops, sorry, that last one was me...my blouse came unbuttoned :redface:. My bad!
 
I remember reading about this a couple weeks ago.

I Lol'd.
 
Perhaps he will cite an increased number of traffic accidents as the consequence of the "boobquake".
 
A classic example of women's rights in islam. Didn't you know? Women = evil. :p
 
aquitaine said:
A classic example of women's rights in [STRIKE]islam[/STRIKE]. Didn't you know? Women = evil. :p

Put whatever you like other than that, cause I won't buy it.
 
Borg said:
I don't know what to say about this other than to wonder what this guy was thinking. :rolleyes:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100419/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iran_earthquakes_promiscuity"

I love the reaction though. http://www.news.com.au/technology/boobquake-determined-to-prove-cleric-wrong/story-e6frfro0-1225856787031"
There are religious nuts in every society. We have "Christian" fundamentalist preachers claiming that liberalism and tolerance toward gays is angering God, who allows us to be attacked by terrorists, natural disasters, etc as punishment for our "sins". I don't see a significant difference between their irrational views and the irrational views of the cleric.
 
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turbo-1 said:
There are religious nuts in every society

Indeed, we have Pat Robertson :(
 
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Even if they did, how would he know that they're the reason?

Is promiscuity really the worst thing going on right now? If god was to make an earthquake over something, that would probably be far down on his list.
That's like someone running a red light and smashing into my car and then me getting angry only because I spilled my drink.
 
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Who caused the unpronounceable volcano in Iceland to erupt? Lady Gaga?
 
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turbo-1 said:
Who caused the unpronounceable volcano in Iceland to erupt?
I think that was Pat Robertson - he must have annoyed Pele.
 
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The missus always made the Earth move under my feet.
 
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the title is highly unethical and should have received universal condemnation if attempted to blame islam somehow...we need to realize that women make half of world population...they are not baby-producing machines but humans like men and must be treated that way...even in the so called civilized societies women do face momentous problems.e.g. women recruited in US army are subjected to so many shameful situations. so the thing is we need to realize and give women their due rights.
 
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sami-rehman said:
the title is highly unethical and should have received universal condemnation if attempted to blame islam somehow...we need to realize that women make half of world population...they are not baby-producing machines but humans like men and must be treated that way...even in the so called civilized societies women do face momentous problems.e.g. women recruited in US army are subjected to so many shameful situations. so the thing is we need to realize and give women their due rights.

Catch a clue. There is nothing unethical about the title. Where do you think anyone blamed Islam for anything? I don't care who that person was or what his religion is. His statement is beyond stupid - just like the US Congressman who said that Guam might tip over if we put too many troops there.
 
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sami-rehman said:
we need to realize and give women their due rights.

Which are...?
 
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This should not be surprising. It has always been the role of religion (pretty much like, all of them, ever) to claim disasters are supernatural occurrences that result as punishments for violation of a moral code. It is this very claim, the ability to prevent the unpredictably (or seemingly unpredictably) catastrophic, and to utilize such fear to reinforce social stability.



sami-rehman said:
the title is highly unethical and should have received universal condemnation if attempted to blame islam somehow...we need to realize that women make half of world population...they are not baby-producing machines but humans like men and must be treated that way...even in the so called civilized societies women do face momentous problems.e.g. women recruited in US army are subjected to so many shameful situations. so the thing is we need to realize and give women their due rights.

The status of gender equality in America is a separate topic, but women's rights in secular versus fundamentalist societies is no contest. Let's not pretend income gaps are the same thing as getting acid thrown in your face for learning to read.
 
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Galteeth said:
... Let's not pretend income gaps are the same thing as getting acid thrown in your face for learning to read.

I don’t know what religion you are referring to by that, but suppose you mean Islam [and btw, I suggest you read before judging]: just so you know, the first word in the first verse that descended in the Qur’an was ‘IQRA’ which means read or recite.

Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists), Has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood) Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous, Who has taught (the writing) by the pen (the first person to write was Prophet Idrees (Enoch)) Has taught man that which he knew not

TMQ, 96:1-5.
 
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drizzle said:
I don’t know what religion you are referring to by that, but suppose you mean Islam [and btw, I suggest you read before judging]: just so you know, the first word in the first verse that descended in the Qur’an was ‘IQRA’ which means read or recite.



TMQ, 96:1-5.

He is referring to Pakistan, Afghanistan and many other countries that have fundamentalist societies I believe. Religion has nothing to do with it but it's the abuse of the religions that is interfering with the basic human rights. You can derive infinite different interpretations of the religious quotes so they are pretty much meaningless to justify anything.
 
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