Do you have to take every single Physics/Math courses in a university available?

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of taking all available physics and mathematics courses for students entering Theoretical Physics. Participants explore the relationship between a major in Theoretical Physics and potential double majors or minors in Mathematics, as well as the implications of course selection and graduation timelines.

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  • Some participants argue that it is impossible to take every physics and math course within a typical four-year degree program due to time constraints and course availability.
  • There is a distinction made between Theoretical Physics and a double major in Mathematics and Physics, with some stating that Theoretical Physics is a sub-field requiring more mathematics but not equivalent to a double major.
  • Questions arise about what courses follow Calculus IV, with responses indicating that it varies by institution and major, with some suggesting that advanced topics may be pursued.
  • Concerns are raised about the possibility of graduating in less than four years, with some suggesting that summer courses and placement exams may influence this but noting that availability varies by university.
  • Some participants mention that while a Bachelor of Science in Theoretical Physics does not automatically confer a Mathematics degree, it may be possible to earn a minor or a double major with additional coursework.

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Participants generally agree that taking every course is impractical, but there is no consensus on the specifics of course requirements, graduation timelines, or the relationship between Theoretical Physics and Mathematics degrees.

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Limitations include the variability of course offerings and requirements across different universities, as well as the lack of clarity on the necessity of certain courses for specific career paths within physics.

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Do you have to take every single Physics/Math courses in a university available if you are entering Theoretical Physics?

Is Theoretical Physics the same as a Double Major for Maths and Physics?

I am only a high school student, but I am taking AP Calculus BC and I will be doing Calculus III in the summer (concurrent studies) and then take Calculus IV when I enter University.

But what comes after Calculus IV? Calculus V??

Do I have to do one of those permutation/combination/stat101 courses?? How much Stat courses would I need?
 
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Pretty sure it would be impossible to take every physics/math course within 4 years.

After calc IV (diff equations), if you're an engineer (you know, applied like) you're pretty much done, all that's left is maybe a mathematical physics class. For someone looking to go into theoretical, you take maybe an analysis class, algebra, etc. As it was told to me, courses beyond differential equations in the math department are likely to be quite useless to the majority of physics majors.
 
flyingpig said:
Do you have to take every single Physics/Math courses in a university available if you are entering Theoretical Physics?
No. It's usually impossible to take every course and still graduate in a reasonable time frame, lots of courses are electives, there's usually a list of courses you have to take and a couple of electives you can choose from, and some courses just won't be relevant to what you're doing.

Is Theoretical Physics the same as a Double Major for Maths and Physics?
No, it's just a sub-field of physics that's extra heavy on the math. Every major has this; even an EE specializing in optics and photonics is going to need a lot more math and physics than the average EE 'cause of the nature of his specialty.

But what comes after Calculus IV? Calculus V??
Depends on the school, but most seem to start branching out into specialty topics. It's also very major dependent: engineers take linear algebra and differential equations, while the math majors need to take advanced calc 1-3 as a prereq for most of their upper level courses.
 
story645 said:
No, it's just a sub-field of physics that's extra heavy on the math. Every major has this; even an EE specializing in optics and photonics is going to need a lot more math and physics than the average EE 'cause of the nature of his specialty.

So if I graduate with a Bachelor of Science, I am not going to get any Math degrees? Is it possible to graduate less than 4 years? If I take summer courses? Are there even placement exams?
 
flyingpig said:
So if I graduate with a Bachelor of Science, I am not going to get any Math degrees? Is it possible to graduate less than 4 years? If I take summer courses? Are there even placement exams?

No, you aren't automatically granted a math degree if you major in theoretical physics. It probably wouldn't take many more math classes to earn the double major, though. You may qualify for a math minor, but not all schools offer minors.

Can you graduate in 3 or 3.5 years...well, it depends. At small schools, they may only offer a required course once every 2 years.

Each university has their own policy regarding placement exams. It seems to me more schools use them now than in years past.

Summer courses...well, not all departments offer them. I went to a fairly big school, but the selection was pretty sparse. It's a good time to take your general education classes.

So I'm afraid the answer to your questions is, it depends on the university you attend.
 
story645 said:
No. It's usually impossible to take every course and still graduate in a reasonable time frame, lots of courses are electives, there's usually a list of courses you have to take and a couple of electives you can choose from, and some courses just won't be relevant to what you're doing.


No, it's just a sub-field of physics that's extra heavy on the math. Every major has this; even an EE specializing in optics and photonics is going to need a lot more math and physics than the average EE 'cause of the nature of his specialty.


Depends on the school, but most seem to start branching out into specialty topics. It's also very major dependent: engineers take linear algebra and differential equations, while the math majors need to take advanced calc 1-3 as a prereq for most of their upper level courses.

lisab said:
No, you aren't automatically granted a math degree if you major in theoretical physics. It probably wouldn't take many more math classes to earn the double major, though.

Can you graduate in 3 years...well, it depends. At small schools, they may only offer a required course once every 2 years.

Each university has their own policy regarding placement exams. It seems to me more schools use them now than in years past.

Summer courses...well, not all departments offer them. I went to a fairly big school, but the selection was pretty sparse. It's a good time to take your general education classes.

So I'm afraid the answer to your questions is, it depends on the university you attend.

It is the University of British Columbia (Canada)
 

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