Does a Gaussian wave packet remain Gaussian?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether a Gaussian wave packet retains its Gaussian form over time, particularly in the context of quantum mechanics and the Schrödinger equation. Participants explore the implications of time-dependent parameters and the effects of external influences such as potential barriers or interactions with other wave packets.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that a Gaussian wave packet remains Gaussian regardless of time-dependent parameters, suggesting that these parameters will take on values independent of position.
  • Another participant challenges this assumption, stating that it must be demonstrated that the time-dependent wave function satisfies the Schrödinger equation, particularly focusing on the functions A(t), a(t), (t), and

    (t).

  • A further contribution indicates that if the wave packet interacts with obstacles or other wave packets, it will not retain its Gaussian shape, implying that external factors influence the wave packet's form.
  • Participants emphasize the importance of calculations over assumptions, urging for a more rigorous approach to understanding the time evolution of the wave packet.
  • One participant hints that the preservation of the Gaussian shape is dependent on the Hamiltonian involved, suggesting a need to consider which Hamiltonians might allow for such preservation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a Gaussian wave packet remains Gaussian over time. There are competing views regarding the influence of external factors and the necessity of calculations to support claims.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion hinges on the specific forms of the time-dependent parameters and the Hamiltonian, which may not be fully resolved within the current exchanges.

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Consider a gaussian wave packet whose wave function at a particular instant of time is
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Its time dependence is implicit in the "constants" A, a, <x> and <p>, which may all be functions of time.
But regardless of what functions of time they may be, these constants will take on some values at another instant of time and remain independent of x. So the wave function (at this new time) is still gaussian.
So a gaussian wave packet remains gaussian. True or false?

I think it's false. But what's wrong with the deduction?
 
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At the moment you simply assume that the wave function will always have that shape. You have to show that there are functions A(t), a(t), <x>(t), <p>(t) such that the resulting time-dependent wave function solves the Schroedinger equation. The latter two should be quite easy (Ehrenfest theorem), then you can work on a(t).
 
mfb said:
At the moment you simply assume that the wave function will always have that shape. You have to show that there are functions A(t), a(t), <x>(t), <p>(t) such that the resulting time-dependent wave function solves the Schroedinger equation. The latter two should be quite easy (Ehrenfest theorem), then you can work on a(t).

If the wave packet hits an obstacle, like a potential barrier or a potential well or collide with another wave packet, then it no longer remains gaussian.

But if it is free to move ahead on its own, then it remains gaussian.

True?
 
Don't guess, calculate it.
 
mfb said:
Don't guess, calculate it.
How do you work on a(t)?
 
Hint: It depends on the Hamiltonian! Just think about the question, which class of Hamiltonians ##H(x,p,t)## have a chance to preserve the Gaussian shape (of course with time-dependent parameters, which for a Gaussian are just the average and the standard deviation, as in your ansatz). The hint about Ehrenfest's theorem is also very valuable :-)).
 

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