Does an absence of a negative indicate a positive?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of skill levels and the implications of using terms like "good" and "bad" in describing abilities. Participants explore whether the absence of a negative assessment implies a positive one, drawing parallels to mathematical concepts of neutrality.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that skill should not be viewed as a binary of good or bad, suggesting a spectrum from no skill to complete skill.
  • Another participant emphasizes that "good" and "bad" are value judgments and that their definitions can vary, indicating a linguistic issue rather than a logical one.
  • A different viewpoint mentions that the absence of evidence does not equate to evidence of absence, although this was challenged as irrelevant to the current discussion.
  • Some participants propose that neutrality exists in skill assessment, similar to the mathematical concept of zero being neutral between positive and negative values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the binary nature of skill assessment, with some advocating for a spectrum approach while others maintain a more traditional binary perspective. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these viewpoints.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not established a common definition of "good" and "bad," leading to potential misunderstandings. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the relevance of mathematical analogies to the concept of skill.

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One time me and a friend were having a debate over skill on certain activities. I said to him, "I'm not bad at basketball, but I'm not good at it either." He began to explain to me that the statement was illogical and that I "either had to be good or bad" Do you think its correct to assume that if someone isn't good at something, that it automatically means they are bad at it, and vice versa? I made the point that in mathematics there is a neutrality in values. The number one is positive. The number negative one is negative. The number zero is neutral between the two. I'm not sure if you could apply this point to skill in activities though. This also goes along with the assumption that just because someone isn't strong it automatically means they are weak. What are your thoughts and opinions for this? If you have any, try to make some intelligent points defending your opinion. I'm interested in some of you all's viewpoints.
 
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In general, yes, but good is not the complement of bad - only its opposite.

It's like saying "either your with us, or you're aginst us".
 
Just measure skill along a spectrum from 0 (no skill) to 10 (complete skill).
 
JerryClower said:
the statement was illogical and that I "either had to be good or bad"

Good and bad are value judgements, so how we use them is definitional.
Claiming some absolute standard is what is illogical, unless you can produce that standard and justify it.
As such its merely a linguistic problem.
You and your friend are using the words differently.
 
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
 
EnumaElish said:
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

Which is completely irrelevant in this particular case :smile:
 

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