Does capturing neutrons turn hydrogen into deuterium and affect the experiment?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of neutron capture by hydrogen atoms in water during a neutron scattering experiment. Participants explore whether capturing neutrons transforms hydrogen into deuterium, the implications for the water used in the experiment, and how this might affect experimental outcomes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether capturing a thermal neutron turns hydrogen into deuterium and if this conversion results in the water becoming heavy water, potentially affecting the experiment.
  • Another participant asserts that capturing a thermal neutron does indeed convert hydrogen to deuterium and provides details about the energy released and the neutron cross section, along with calculations regarding the time required to achieve a significant concentration of deuterium.
  • A third participant expresses uncertainty about their neutron flux and indicates that the duration of their experiment will not allow for significant deuterium formation, suggesting they do not foresee issues related to this transformation.
  • A participant provides a reference to thermal neutron flux measurements in a research reactor, indicating a specific neutron flux value at a certain distance from the core.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of neutron capture for the experiment. While some agree on the transformation of hydrogen to deuterium, there is uncertainty regarding the practical effects on the experiment due to the time required for significant conversion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific neutron flux measurements from the original poster and the assumptions made regarding the duration of the experiment and the neutron capture process.

Who May Find This Useful

Researchers and students involved in neutron scattering experiments, nuclear physics, or those studying neutron interactions with matter may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi all. I am going to be doing an experiment involving neutron scatter. I am going to be firing fast neutrons into water and then detecting the thermal neutrons scattered. I am also going to look into thermal neutron capture where the hydrogen atom captures the thermal neutron and gives off a promt gamma ray.

i was wondering that when the hydrogen atom captures the neutron does this turn it into deuterium and if so does this now mean that my targeted water has turned into heavy water? would this have any affect on my experiment in the long run? or is my understanding of physics/chemistry way off?

any help is much appreciated
 
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When a hydrogen atom captures a thermal neutron, it turns into deuterium with the release of a 2.1-MeV gamma ray. The cross section is about 330 millibarns (not very large). To turn 18 grams (1 mole) of water to heavy water, about 2 moles (12 x 1023) of neutrons are required, and 2 moles (12 x 1023) of 2.1-MeV gammas are released. If your neutron flux is 1014 n/cm2-sec, you will need to wait ~4 years to get a 1% concentration of deuterium in your water. What is your neutron flux? How long are you willing to wait to create 20 grams (1 mole) of heavy water?

Bob S
 
wow cheers for the indepth explanation Bob. I am not to sure what my neutron flux will be yet but my experiment will no way last as long as 4 years so I am sure i won't be having any problems with deuterium.

Thanks
 
Here is the thermal neutron flux in the core of a 20 MW research reactor. See especially the plot vs. distance from core:

http://www.frm2.tum.de/en/technik/reactor/neutron-flux-density/index.html

It is ~ 1 x 1014neutrons/cm2-sec at 1 meter from the core.

Bob S
 
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