Does expansion a(t) affect QM probability density?

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The discussion revolves around the impact of cosmic expansion on quantum mechanical probability density and current. Participants explore the implications of a comoving particle in relation to the cosmic microwave background (CMB) and how expansion might influence quantum properties, particularly in the context of particle production and the interpretation of specific equations related to probability density current.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the expansion of the universe affects the probability density and density current of a comoving particle, suggesting that it seems unlikely that it wouldn't.
  • Another participant proposes that the definition of probability density current may need modification, expressing uncertainty about its relevance in practical setups.
  • A participant shares an equation for probability density current and seeks to understand the implications of the terms involved, particularly regarding spatial non-commutativity of the wavefunction.
  • One participant asserts that cosmic expansion leads to particle production, drawing a parallel to Hawking radiation, while noting that the rate of production is low.
  • Another participant reiterates their interest in the same equation, providing an intuitive interpretation that relates the expression to particle velocity and probability density, while also discussing the necessity of the difference for the expression to be real-valued.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of cosmic expansion on quantum mechanics, with some suggesting modifications to existing definitions and others proposing new interpretations. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the implications of the equations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity regarding the definitions and relevance of probability density current in the context of cosmic expansion, as well as the interpretation of specific mathematical expressions. There are indications of missing assumptions and unresolved interpretations of the equations discussed.

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I'm picturing a comoving particle, meaning at rest with respect to CMB? Does expansion affect the probability density, density current? I can't see how it wouldn't? But then it seems like there would have to be a uniform negative probability density current everywhere.
 
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I guess the definition of probability density current should be modified then. I'm not aware of setups where this would actually be relevant.
 
This is the equation I am trying to understand the meaning of.

j\quad =\quad \frac { \hbar }{ 2mi } \left( { \Psi }^{ * }\frac { \partial \Psi }{ \partial x } -\Psi \frac { \partial { \Psi }^{ * } }{ \partial x } \right)

The part inside the parenthesis is what i would like to get a feel for. I know it describes the difference between the product of of the wave function and the partial derivative of it's conjugate, and the product of the conjugate and the partial of the wavefunction (the "reversed product").

The difference would represent... the spatial non-commutativity of the wavefunction?

Not that it's important but this is the paper I am trying to read understand some of.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0105112v1.pdf
On Koopman-von Neumann Waves
D. Mauro
(Submitted on 23 May 2001)
In this paper we study the classical Hilbert space introduced by Koopman and von Neumann in their operatorial formulation of classical mechanics. In particular we show that the states of this Hilbert space do not spread, differently than what happens in quantum mechanics. The role of the phases associated to these classical "wave functions" is analyzed in details. In this framework we also perform the analog of the two-slit experiment and compare it with the quantum case.
 
The expansion causes particle production. I think the rate is low, bu it is similar to why the black hole produces Hawking radiation, in the sense that neither the expanding universe not the interior of the black hole is stationary.

http://arxiv.org/abs/1205.5616
Particle creation and particle number in an expanding universe
Leonard Parker
 
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Jimster41 said:
This is the equation I am trying to understand the meaning of.

j\quad =\quad \frac { \hbar }{ 2mi } \left( { \Psi }^{ * }\frac { \partial \Psi }{ \partial x } -\Psi \frac { \partial { \Psi }^{ * } }{ \partial x } \right)

The part inside the parenthesis is what i would like to get a feel for. I know it describes the difference between the product of of the wave function and the partial derivative of it's conjugate, and the product of the conjugate and the partial of the wavefunction (the "reversed product").

Intuitively, this formula is basically the particle velocity times the probability density. Recall that the momentum operator is ##\frac{\hbar}{i} \frac{\partial}{\partial x}##. We divide by ##m## to get the velocity.

Jimster41 said:
The difference would represent... the spatial non-commutativity of the wavefunction?

The difference is just needed to make the overall expression real-valued.
 
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