Does Fox News live up to the slogan Fair and balanced?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the slogan "Fair and balanced" as it pertains to Fox News, examining whether the network lives up to this claim. Participants explore various aspects of media bias, the role of journalism, and the perception of news reporting across different networks.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that Fox News does not provide fair and balanced reporting, suggesting that it often sways public opinion and uses biased language.
  • Others contend that Fox News serves a purpose by counterbalancing what they perceive as predominantly left-wing reporting from other networks.
  • A participant cites Bernard Goldberg's criticism of Fox News for its overly patriotic language, indicating a perceived lack of neutrality.
  • Concerns are raised about the credibility of media reviews, particularly regarding the Center for Media and Public Affairs and its ties to Fox News.
  • Several participants express skepticism about the existence of truly unbiased news, suggesting that all news outlets exhibit some level of bias.
  • Some participants mention alternative news sources, such as BBC and comedic programs, as potentially more balanced or credible.
  • There are references to the challenges of maintaining unbiased reporting in a highly polarized media landscape.
  • Humorous remarks are made about the nature of political commentary and the perception of bias in news reporting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on whether Fox News lives up to its slogan, with multiple competing views on the nature of media bias and the role of different news outlets. The discussion remains unresolved, reflecting a range of opinions and interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific individuals and organizations, raising questions about their credibility and potential biases. The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of media and the definitions of fairness and balance in reporting.

Does Fox News live up to the slogan, "Fair and balanced"?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 9.3%
  • No

    Votes: 58 67.4%
  • In some ways/areas

    Votes: 20 23.3%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    86
  • #61
I don't watch MSNBC but apparently most everyone on Wall Street does - according to people from the stock exchange floor who were interviewed on the Frontline documentary about the meltdown [linked in a couple of threads here]. MSNBC was described as being pervasive on Wall Street. So while it may be that MSNBC is hard left, and I don't know that to be true, they are allegedly also respected as THE news channel for matters of money.

I don't know one person who does watch MSNBC for their so-called hard left stance. In fact, the only person that I know who says he watches it regularly is a hard righty that is heavily into investments.

On the other hand, I can often cite the talking points from Rush and Fox that day based on the irrational rants from hard righties.

I would like to know what bias towards Bush was promoted by CNN. The only anchor that I like on CNN is the Wolfman, so maybe I just don't see it, but I definitely don't see Blitzer promoting nonsense like that coming from Fox or Rush. I do note that other anchors on CNN, like Kira Phillips, can't keep their opinions to themself. And I have caught Phillips misreprenting the views of guests in order to get her shots in, which, btw, are usually right-leaning. In fact, she is the only anchor I have ever emailed to complain about biased reporting. One day she completely distorted the opinions of a guest who was still sitting there! My guess would be that she is a Conservative Catholic.

CNN's morning guy is a yutz and Rick Sanchez is an idiot [really, just all fluff]. I give you that.
 
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  • #62
Ivan Seeking said:
I don't watch MSNBC but apparently most everyone on Wall Street does ...
Almost - that's CNBC, a sister channel, same parent.
 
  • #63
mheslep said:
Almost - that's CNBC, a sister channel, same parent.

Ah, it is possible that I have confused the two since I don't watch either.

In that case I don't know anyone who claims to watch MSNBC. :biggrin:
 
  • #64
Whenever I do watch the news (not during supper time) it is usually that HLN or something of the sort. They have cool graphics and have more to do with pop culture and the like. Attack of the Show is also a pretty awesome news source! hahaha
 
  • #65
Ivan Seeking said:
Ah, it is possible that I have confused the two since I don't watch either.
Never watched CNBC! :bugeye: You don't know what you've been missing!
 
  • #66
Gokul43201 said:
Never watched CNBC! :bugeye: You don't know what you've been missing!

Honestly, until recently [not just now, but recently, say in the last year], I didn't realize that we had CNBC and MSNBC. I thought NBC had one cable news service. I have long been distrustful of cable news of all brands.
 
  • #67
Fox news balanced? hmmmm... yes indeed, and O'Reilly truly loves democrats
 
  • #68
The lack of "fair and balanced" is apparent in all US media outlets. For any non-bias take on politics, news, etc., you have to branch out to a lot of the world news agencies. I will, however, give CNN a little props because of their sister network CNN International. Personally, I tend to drift towards Al-Jazeera and BBC for my news.
 
  • #69
Cod said:
The lack of "fair and balanced" is apparent in all US media outlets. For any non-bias take on politics, news, etc., you have to branch out to a lot of the world news agencies. I will, however, give CNN a little props because of their sister network CNN International. Personally, I tend to drift towards Al-Jazeera and BBC for my news.

Yeah, all the political news station are bull. BBC and Haper's are the least bias I know of. Never watched Al Jazeera.
 
  • #70
I like the BBC and CNN International. PBS is also great for quality news reports and high-quality political documentaries. I also think shows like This Week [ABC] , and Meet the Press [NBC], can be quite informative and are generally reliable. Unfortunately, both have lost their edge lately. With MTP, it was lost with the passing of one of my heroes, Tim Russert. An hour with Tim was worth a week of most anything else. It will take time to fill that void. As for This Week, Stephanopoulos is leaving and has apparently gone soft - he has joined Good Morning America! EGAD! Maybe he is just sick of politics. Right now the show is adrift.
 
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  • #71
Ivan Seeking said:
I don't watch MSNBC but apparently most everyone on Wall Street does - according to people from the stock exchange floor who were interviewed on the Frontline documentary about the meltdown [linked in a couple of threads here]. MSNBC was described as being pervasive on Wall Street. So while it may be that MSNBC is hard left, and I don't know that to be true, they are allegedly also respected as THE news channel for matters of money.

I don't know one person who does watch MSNBC for their so-called hard left stance. In fact, the only person that I know who says he watches it regularly is a hard righty that is heavily into investments.

On the other hand, I can often cite the talking points from Rush and Fox that day based on the irrational rants from hard righties.

I would like to know what bias towards Bush was promoted by CNN. The only anchor that I like on CNN is the Wolfman, so maybe I just don't see it, but I definitely don't see Blitzer promoting nonsense like that coming from Fox or Rush. I do note that other anchors on CNN, like Kira Phillips, can't keep their opinions to themself. And I have caught Phillips misreprenting the views of guests in order to get her shots in, which, btw, are usually right-leaning. In fact, she is the only anchor I have ever emailed to complain about biased reporting. One day she completely distorted the opinions of a guest who was still sitting there! My guess would be that she is a Conservative Catholic.

CNN's morning guy is a yutz and Rick Sanchez is an idiot [really, just all fluff]. I give you that.

Please label this post as your opinion.
 
  • #72
Cod said:
The lack of "fair and balanced" is apparent in all US media outlets. For any non-bias take on politics, news, etc., you have to branch out to a lot of the world news agencies. I will, however, give CNN a little props because of their sister network CNN International. Personally, I tend to drift towards Al-Jazeera and BBC for my news.

quite so, go to MSNBC and we hear glorification of the left, go to Fox news and we hear all-praises for the right.
 
  • #74
Ivan Seeking said:
I don't watch ... and I don't know that to be true...I don't know one person ... In fact, the only person that I know who ... I would like to know... that I like on CNN ... so maybe I just don't see it, but I definitely don't see ... I do note that ... And I have caught ... My guess would be that ...

WhoWee said:
Please label this post as your opinion.
Aren't all those labels in the post making it sufficiently clear that he is expressing his opinion?
 
  • #75
The "press" reflects the desires of the owners of the press. No big surprise there.
 
  • #76
Gokul43201 said:
Aren't all those labels in the post making it sufficiently clear that he is expressing his opinion?

I should have typed it this way..."Please label THIS post as your opinion." If you want to know why...read all of his posts.
 
  • #77
i had a sudden realization today. based on Beck's self-reported history, the way he behaves, and the amount of bodyfat he carries, i think he's suffering from alcoholic hypogonadism. before, i thought it was just some kind of crazy, as he seems emotionally unstable, but now I'm thinking it's the estrogen roller-coaster.

Olbermann still eludes me.
 

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