Does Gravity Affect Itself and the Higgs Boson?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between gravity and the Higgs boson, specifically whether gravity affects itself and the Higgs boson. Participants explore theoretical implications and the nature of observable particles in the context of gravity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether gravity and the Higgs boson are affected by gravity, suggesting a relationship due to the Higgs boson's status as an observable particle.
  • Another participant asserts that the Higgs boson is not an observable particle and requests references to support the claim that it is.
  • A different participant acknowledges the lack of direct evidence for the Higgs boson being observed but argues it should be considered an observable particle due to its properties, while also stating that it interacts with gravity.
  • One participant expresses a desire for more depth on how gravity is affected by gravity, indicating a lack of understanding of the topic.
  • Another participant explains that Einstein's Field Equation is non-linear, suggesting that the gravitational interaction between two massive bodies is more complex than a simple sum of their individual effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the observability of the Higgs boson, with some asserting it is observable and others contesting this claim. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of gravity's interaction with itself and the Higgs boson.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of observable particles and the assumptions underlying the interactions described by Einstein's Field Equation. The complexity of gravitational interactions is acknowledged but not fully resolved.

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So I was wondering if gravity and the Higgs boson are affected by gravity. because the higgs boson is an observable particle so it must have some relationship with gravity. Thanks for checking this out.

P.S I searched through the rules to see if it stated where I should put a thread like this, and i couldn't seem to find anything. So I thought I would just put it in general physics! :)
 
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Cosmicpanda said:
So I was wondering if gravity and the Higgs boson are affected by gravity. because the higgs boson is an observable particle so it must have some relationship with gravity. Thanks for checking this out.

As far as I know the Higgs Boson is NOT an observable particle. Will you please post some reference that say it is? Where did you read that?

Thank you.
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Bobbywhy said:
As far as I know the Higgs Boson is NOT an observable particle. Will you please post some reference that say it is? Where did you read that?
The only known source of confinement is color charge. Higgs Boson is color-neutral and has an on-shell mass allowing free propagation. So OP is absolutely right. We have no direct evidence of it being observed, but it should be an observable particle.

And yes, it will interact with gravity. Anything that has energy does. Interaction of gravity with gravity is a bit more complicated, but it's covered by Einstein's Field Equation.
 
Thank you for informing me about this. I'm rather uneducated on the matter and sometimes I come up with these random epiphanies and I just found out about physics forum, so i actually have a way to get answers to these questions and thoughts.

is there any chance you could go into more depth about how gravity IS affected by gravity?

Thanks
-Cosmicpanda
 
Not really an expert. But what it comes down to is that Einstein's Field Equation is non-linear, which means that solution for gravity caused by two massive bodies isn't just a sum of solutions from each body by itself. That can be interpreted as an interaction between the gravitational fields of the two bodies.
 

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