Does Quantum Contextuality only apply to spin?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of quantum contextuality, specifically questioning whether it is limited to measurements of spin or if it applies to other quantum properties such as momentum and position. Participants also explore the origins of the quantum number for spin and its relation to the Schrödinger equation.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that they have only found examples of quantum contextuality related to spin measurements and questions if it is exclusive to spin.
  • Another participant asserts that quantum contextuality applies to momentum and position as well as spin.
  • A participant explains that spin arises from additional degrees of freedom discovered through observation, beyond the quantum numbers derived from the Schrödinger equation.
  • It is mentioned that to include spin in the Schrödinger equation, it must be incorporated into the Hamiltonian, which may not always be necessary depending on the physical system.
  • One participant emphasizes that, from a mathematical perspective, all aspects of quantum mechanics are contextual, with spin and photon polarization being common examples due to experimental convenience.
  • A later reply discusses the derivation of quantum spin angular momentum through group theory and references historical contributions to the understanding of spin in quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of quantum contextuality, with some asserting it applies broadly while others focus on its common association with spin. The origins of the quantum number for spin also appear to be a point of exploration rather than consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the specific conditions under which spin appears in quantum mechanics, as well as the implications of group theory in understanding quantum spin. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on these topics without definitive conclusions.

Jarrodmccarthy
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I have just recently started learning about quantum contextuality and can only seem to find examples where contextuality is need to explain measurements of spin.
So I am curious as to whether quantum contextuality only applies to measurements of spin?

Also, If someone could clarify where the quantum number for spin 'comes from' since I haven't been able to find a solution where it comes out of the Schroedinger equation?

Any responses would be fantastic and apologies if the questions aren't well formulated.
 
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Jarrodmccarthy said:
Also, If someone could clarify where the quantum number for spin 'comes from' since I haven't been able to find a solution where it comes out of the Schroedinger equation?
Spin was discovered by observation. During the 1920s it became clear that a bound electron had an additional degree of freedom beyond the n,l,m quantum numbers that appear when you solve Schrödinger's equation for a spinless charged particle around the nucleus.

As with any observable, to make spin show up in Schrödinger's equation, you have to include it in the Hamiltonian. If the physical system is such that spin-related effects are negligible or non-existent (for example, a free electron in the absence of a magnetic field) then there won't be any spin-related terms in the Hamiltonian.
 
Jarrodmccarthy said:
I have just recently started learning about quantum contextuality and can only seem to find examples where contextuality is need to explain measurements of spin.
So I am curious as to whether quantum contextuality only applies to measurements of spin?
As far as the mathematical formalism of QM is concerned, everything is contextual. Spin and photon polarization are used as examples most often because it's relatively easy to design experiments using them to demonstrate contextually.
 
Nugatory said:
As far as the mathematical formalism of QM is concerned, everything is contextual. Spin and photon polarization are used as examples most often because it's relatively easy to design experiments using them to demonstrate contextually.
Thank you very much.
All of what you said made sense so thank you.
 
Quantum spin angular momentum is a consequence of group theory (Galilei group for Newtonian spacetime, Poincare group for Minkowski spacetime), and Pauli's equation for the non specially relativistic case follows as the only option to have a 2nd order PDE which incorporates spin. This derivation was made by Levy-Leblond in the golden era of the 1960's.
 

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